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The_Korrigan Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
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I agree keeping pieces of the old raid set inaccessible without raiding is silly.
Yeah, I really said that.
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Arunne Title: The Anonymous
Posts: 177
Registered: 2003-11-3 14:11:47
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Blizzard is telling you this is what you want, you just dont know it.
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Spookysheep Title: Lieker of Cheese
Posts: 1,248
Registered: 2002-1-9 06:49:19
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What I really do not understand is how a company starts losing tons of money and does not take steps to turn the situation around.
In WOTLK subscriptions went up, up, and up. So the few people complaining that the game was "too easy", or whatever, may have been complaining, but they obviously were not canceling their subs.
Now we see the reverse. Blizzard catered to the extreme minority of their player base and are losing, on average, 300,000 subscriptions PER QUARTER.
When did businesses stop cutting the heads of non-producing executives?
WOTLK was extremely successful mainly by letting non-raiders get the previous season raid sets by collecting points from 5 mans, while the raiders still got the latest and best by doing what they liked to do as well. It worked for everyone.
WTF made blizzard think it was a good idea to change that?
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Date Posted:
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tantallous posted:
My only issue with the way wrath made things easy is that there were so many awful players that thought they were awesome because they could go on a raid. But even that could be dealt with alright, mute buttons are there for a reason. It became a much bigger issue with cata though, because they had the wrath attitude, and in cata, their complete fail was not going to work for raids. ended up wasting so much time because people who were not remotely prepared went on raids
Think about what you are saying. You are saying that Blizzard changed the game and it is 12 million...ooops, sorry, 11 million player's faults for not adapting. This is Blizzard's game, they made it not the players so saying all the players are terribad is bad business sense imo and 900 thousand or so other's as well.
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Date Posted:
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Spookysheep posted:
What I really do not understand is how a company starts losing tons of money and does not take steps to turn the situation around.
In WOTLK subscriptions went up, up, and up. So the few people complaining that the game was "too easy", or whatever, may have been complaining, but they obviously were not canceling their subs.
Now we see the reverse. Blizzard catered to the extreme minority of their player base and are losing, on average, 300,000 subscriptions PER QUARTER.
When did businesses stop cutting the heads of non-producing executives?
WOTLK was extremely successful mainly by letting non-raiders get the previous season raid sets by collecting points from 5 mans, while the raiders still got the latest and best by doing what they liked to do as well. It worked for everyone.
WTF made blizzard think it was a good idea to change that?
Hubris and underling fear. The underlings are too scared to tell the big dogs that the ship is taking on water and they have to pull their heads out of their asses. And the big dogs are too proud to listen to underlings who want to tell them how to run a company (into the ground).
But I am going to go mainly with hubris, imo. They just don't want to admit they were wrong by changing their model back to the highly successful WOTLK model.
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Fedup23 Posts: 358
Registered: 2006-7-14 06:15:32
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Blizzard catered to the overly vocal minority (remember, those that are happy wont be raiding message boards) that said WOTLK was too easy..welfare epics..baddies getting what I "earned" etc etc . So they eventually made things (end game) "harder" with the release of Cata. Now they have a whole new set of problems... people want WOTLK back.
Blizzards problem is that they have (intentional or not) the maneuverability of a cruise liner.. so it is going to take them 2 years to turn around and give you guys WOTLK back. Unfortunately when The Mists of Pandaria (?) comes out and its all 20 minute 5 mans with a full suit of last seasons EPICS avail.. people are going to bitch about it.
..and so..like sands through the hourglass, these are the days of our MMO lives.
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JaconKin Posts: 186
Registered: 2007-1-16 18:00:40
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By the time that happens I will be playing the genre changing and superior Guild Wars 2 that won't have a subscription fee. Blizzard got the last of my money via a sub fee in January, and that goes for any MMO that charges a sub fee and is merely a clone of the 12 year old MMO Model and Mechanic. This includes even TOR, if I get the game, I will play my one free month, if it is offered, and then quit.
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Fedup23 Posts: 358
Registered: 2006-7-14 06:15:32
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JaconKin posted:
By the time that happens I will be playing the genre changing and superior Guild Wars 2 that won't have a subscription fee.
I dont know about you (well, your statement pretty much gives you away).. but I have counted too many chickens before they have hatched.
I have been excited for too many games that promised to "change the game".
One humiliating kick in the crotch (thank you Sting) too many for me.
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_Taebo_ Posts: 184
Registered: 2001-2-28 11:37:14
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I loved the Wotlk model, it took a while, but I could have fun in my 5 man heroics...I had a blast. I haven't had much fun since those days in WoW.
I ended up getting geared up to at least attempt the 10 man LK stuff, I never did finish it, but I did do some runs and it was fun.
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JaconKin Posts: 186
Registered: 2007-1-16 18:00:40
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Fedup23 posted:
JaconKin posted:
By the time that happens I will be playing the genre changing and superior Guild Wars 2 that won't have a subscription fee.
I dont know about you (well, your statement pretty much gives you away).. but I have counted too many chickens before they have hatched.
I have been excited for too many games that promised to "change the game".
One humiliating kick in the crotch (thank you Sting) too many for me. 
As have I, yet, when all one has to do is watch videos of the game and realize that there is something special occurring with Guild Wars 2. You see a slick combat system, a quality of production that some games wish they had at release, and a complete overhaul to every mechanic that has become standard in MMOs since Everquest.
I was almost suckered in by WAR, thankfully I was able to avoid it due to a preorder of the CE that got me into the final stages of the BETA. Guild Wars 2 isn't even in BETA and looks better than most games in that stage. Watching videos of the games will tell you this much, once you begin investigating the game further and the passion that Arena Net has for the project and the goals they have for the game. They have stated that they aren't aiming for second best, the proof can be clearly seen.
I expect nothing less from the two remaining finding members of Arena Net who were basically responsible for making Blizzard a household name.
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