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Author Topic: Comments about the status of Mordred from a player who started here from scratch [Locked]
dannica  1 star
Posts: 109
Registered: 2003-1-16 22:53:10
HumbleHampster posted:

I think alot of people that come here are here because they tire of getting rolled by FG's+ and/or several stealthers while they are trying to solo.



Yes - this is 100% true. However, there is currently no need in rolling on Mordred for people like this (I'm one of them) because there is no one to fight anywhere.


HumbleHampster posted:

As for not finding action....players tend to level in obscure places because as previously posted people know whats needed to compete and they want to get it done quickly because they have been around for ages and are most likely tired of farming so they can farm only to farm yet again and more.



How is this different than someone farming (or being given gear) for tens of hours only to find their time wasted because there is no one to fight? They'll stick around for a 1-3 weeks and then log off - never to return - because of all the time they wasted. Sure, giving them free gear speeds up the process.... but to what end? They'll quickly learn that their templated character has no one to fight outside of the guilds farming each other's keep in NF and leave the server.

The entire point I'm trying to make is that players come here to fight other players. Whether or not you give them free gear, they will still see an empty server in a matter of 1-3 weeks. If everyone had to farm their gear, there is a small chance they would at least encounter other players in the process, which (slightly) reduces their apprehension about wasting their time playing on a dead server.

You can throw scales and glass at new players all day long, but it won't solve the problem: there is no one to fight on Mordred. People come to the PvP server to fight other players, not waste 1-3 weeks of their in game time creating a character that will be useless despite being ML 10, CL 10, and having a perfect template.

 

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dannica  1 star
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HumbleHampster posted:

I think overall the community is what will bring people to the server and mordred has a great community overall and is generally more respectful than ywain so I dont think people PL'n and givin stuff out will hamper the rise of population.



The VN board community is nice, but it isn't why people play on a given server. We can chat all day long over the VN boards without the game being a factor. However, people do not level up, gear, and actively play characters on the Mordred server to chat with others on the VN boards; one can do this without wasting 30-50 /play hours in game.

Having a tight knit community on the chat boards is a fine goal, but it will not help revive this in game server. People do not create characters on the Mordred game server to chat on the VN; they make them to fight other players in game.


HumbleHampster posted:

To increase pop people need to know that mordred is not cutthroat and ADVERTISE. Post some random crap on ywain and youll get a temporary influx of people comin to mord, I say temporary because several will come but only a few will stay after the first week BUT do that every now and again and the pop will increase over time



People don't stay because there is no reason to stay. And can you blame them? They create a character, /level 40, reach 50, and then leave the server because there is no one to fight. Who wants to level a character to 50, farm glass and scales, create a template, and then realize that their time was wasted?

 

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poidragon
Posts: 28
Registered: 2009-5-3 04:43:23
Well since Mordred was once the top server for PVP/RVR action, why not consider or suggest to mythic to make it the test server for dueling/PVP, allowing interested players to copy their toons over to this server, just for the purposes of dueling and having the open fields to PVP to their hearts content.

If interested players wanted to copy their characters over to Mordred, they would have to understand that there are server restricted items that won't work or transfer over, but I don't think that would stop players from moving their toon's over to see what they can do on a server dedicated to PVP/Dueling.

Personally, I have never been a big fan of playing on Mordred, only because I was new to the game and did not get or grasp the mentality of or intricacies of 'kill or be killed' gaming. The few toons I had on the server, never got much past lvl 20, since as soon as my immunity went down, it was run like hell and get out of the more traveled area's or die. Playing on mordred, was a living/leveling hell, for a noobie player...............

With 5 years of playing DAoC, I now finally get the concepts of what Mordred were and are about in regards to PVP. A bit late now for that, but there is always hope that Mordred might one day make a come back.............

it's just a suggestion, so go ahead and flame, curse, cry and let it all out and consider the options left to the dedicated player base of the Mordred server..............
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Posts: 441
Registered: 2004-9-23 20:00:15
bleh not even gonna bother ... nevermind

 

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HumbleHampster  1 star
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Registered: 2010-3-23 10:34:21
I wasnt talking about the VN community at all Dannica but you have already made up your mind about mordred it seems so there is no point in trying to get you to see the brighter side. I suppose the server has lost your vote so carry on mate


PS. if you dont have patience then solo is not for you and therefore mordred is also not for you

 

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Metan-MLF
Posts: 25
Registered: 2003-2-20 10:57:26
I don't know who Dannica is but I agree with everything he is saying.

It seems to be an Ywain/Rvr server affliction that you need to be in the very best gear to rvr/pvp as it has never been the case as long as I've played. I wonder what they'll do when they realise that better(to a lesser extent higher realm rank) players will still kill them without breaking a sweat and that all their pve efforts have been for nothing.

This is not even touching on the fact that there's nobody online in the first place. I've checked the Mordred population at various times throughout the past week and I've seen from 4 to 8 people online at a time so unless everyone is anon, which I don't even understand why you would be, then the server is as dead as it's always been.

 

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Phlei  1 star
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Registered: 2008-12-10 18:38:51
I don't see a problem with PvE'n since people don't want to PvP in DF seal gear with no arti/ml's/scale items, etc.

I resubbed with 14 days free and got a VW to 50 (in the past month). Soon after getting 50 I realized how lame it was going to be to try and solo farm for a template since the server was so empty. People always talked about PvP'n on VN but I would port to Oceanus/Goth/Cots and see nobody. ever.

Since, I have let that account close (was a bot account) and am currently playin' a bit on Ywain...it is zergy as hell trying to solo but at least I get some fights.

Is there a dedicated chat/vent channel used for mordred other than this forum? I've thought about trying again but don't want to waste the time if everyone is just going to do everything (PvE farming) solo.

On a side note, it is lame that the new BG quests on Ywain have made leveling 50x faster that mordred, even with our xp bonuses. Though, this will probably be nerfed.

 

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Greasygypsy  1 star
Posts: 75
Registered: 2009-6-13 12:14:59
Thoke, there seems to be a max of about 35 non anon, but still it is not enough because most of the current community pvps in NF. I got two chars to level 50 from scratch, trying to give it a fair chance and add my +1 to the server for a bit. I got to about rr3 ~50k rps on one of them from various people I found it goth. The leveling kept me busy for a while but in the end I realized goth has a couple people in it (about 1-10 people) for a 1-5 hour window each day and that's it. Never found pvp anywhere else (I don't visit NF on mord), and whenever there is pvp there idiot retard boy (ckikea) comes to camp the house with 6 accounts. Don't activate to play mordred, you will be disappointed

 

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poidragon
Posts: 28
Registered: 2009-5-3 04:43:23
If mordred is left to itself, and continues as it is, the server will never recover from the entropic tendency that has inhabited the server; it's death will be a certainty! 35 people do not make up a population worth sustaining, you all know this to be true! So your best bet is to speak up and be vocal about what you want to see happen to the Mordred server; it should be obvious to anyone reading these posts, that there is still a player base passionate about Mordred, so why let it die an empty death? Let your voices and concerns be heard.....!
dannica  1 star
Posts: 109
Registered: 2003-1-16 22:53:10
Phlei posted:

I don't see a problem with PvE'n since people don't want to PvP in DF seal gear with no arti/ml's/scale items, etc.



I never said that playing PvE was bad for Mordred - I highly encourage people to farm their own scales and glass - but I maintain that giving away massive amounts of scales and glass is bad for the server.


Phlei posted:

People always talked about PvP'n on VN but I would port to Oceanus/Goth/Cots and see nobody. ever.



I believe we agree on this point.


Phlei posted:

Is there a dedicated chat/vent channel used for mordred other than this forum? I've thought about trying again but don't want to waste the time if everyone is just going to do everything (PvE farming) solo.



It appears to be a complex network of established players and guilds logging on to farm each others' keeps.


Phlei posted:

On a side note, it is lame that the new BG quests on Ywain have made leveling 50x faster that mordred, even with our xp bonuses. Though, this will probably be nerfed.



It's a shame that EA-Bioware-Mythic didn't devise a similar program for the Mordred server. I was quite excited to see all of the talk about a Mordred revival and dutifully ground my way up here (including GM in armour crafting and Alchemy) only to find no one to fight. I can't even sell invigoration potions on my consignment merchant, which people frequently requested on the Mordred VNBoards. Perhaps not being part of the Mordred in crowd is why they didn't sell (this is also bad for the server).

As it currently stands, I believe the regular Mordred players and guilds are too entrenched in their ways to truly be ready for a Mordred revival. Should they wish for a real server revival, here are a few suggestions:


Forget about farming in NF and take the action to Goth Harbour, Oceanus Haven, or Cotswold


Give advice about where to level and farm instead of free gear and master levels


Never forget that Mordred is about having people to kill. New players do not come here for welfare gear and master levels; they come here to PvP. Welfare PvE is counter productive for Mordred's future because it sharply reduces the chances that new players will actually encounter each other. Yes, PvE on a PvP server can be harsh, but there is no need in coddling new players because they came here to PvP

 

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