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Author Topic: Comments about the status of Mordred from a player who started here from scratch [Locked]
dannica  1 star
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Registered: 2003-1-16 22:53:10
This was originally a reply to another thread, but feel these comments are worth being an independent topic, so here it is.

As best I can tell, the current population is using this as a lower population PvE server:


They farm keeps for glass and scales


Raid ML10 with other guilds for loot


Make necros to farm mobs in isolated locations


Help new players way too much with free gear, scales, and glass


Yes, I understand that helping people out with gear will help attract people to the player, but people do not create characters on this server to gear them; we make characters here to PvP. And PvP is the one thing I'm not seeing on Mordred.

Due to being a Catacombs class, I leveled from 1 to 50 entirely solo and only saw one other player during this time. It's common sense that this is a low population server, but from my perspective, almost no one is out to PvP.

Areas I leveled in due to hoping to see other players:


Darkness Falls


Entrances of each realm's level 35+ dungeon


Areas with blue through red mobs in the dragon zones of both Albion and Midgard


Avalon City


By all measures, these should be high traffic areas for other players leveling from 40-50 and out to farm scales, however almost no other players are to be found. The scale loop on in level 3 of the Labyrinthe is the only place I've encountered other players post 50, and both times it was 2 other players plus their bots.

Based on these experiences, I can only assume that people leveling up or farming scales are either leveling in isolated areas, receiving a lot of power leveling, or simply being given XP scrolls and scales by veterans on the server. None of these activities are healthy for the server's population. People come here to PvP, not to receive free hand outs while never encountering other players.

If you really want to help Mordred's population, here are some suggestions from a player who started here at level 1 with nothing and farmed every single piece of glass and scale I needed:


Rather than giving free handouts, suggest places for new players to level up and farm their own glass and scales - this will help them encounter other players to PvP against.


The key to reviving Mordred lies in the new players actually having someone to fight and giving them free things (other than advice!) is counter productive in this goal. We coming here to fight other players, not to join guilds* and gear up a character that has no one to fight.


* Yes, guilds are important, but having other players to fight is more important. What use is joining a guild on the PvP server when your guild is 50% of the non-anon population?

 

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impstomper  1 star
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made 400k this week from nf/gothwaite

 

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Greasygypsy  1 star
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Registered: 2009-6-13 12:14:59
i dont know about other people, but I sure don't play mord to pvp in nf. And goth is barely ever active

 

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dannica  1 star
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Registered: 2003-1-16 22:53:10
Greasygypsy posted:

i dont know about other people, but I sure don't play mord to pvp in nf. And goth is barely ever active



I'm pretty much what I'm seeing. I've tried making a loop through Goth, Wearyall -> AC run (both entrance areas), Oceanus Haven, and Cotswold looking for people to fight and find no one. To be fair, I don't maintain these loops for very long and perhaps not at peak hours (not sure what difference that makes...).

edit:

Ahhh yes NF. Well, that is what many of us wanted to leave behind and it's what I mean by a good chunk of this server's population using Mordred as a low population PvE server. Perhaps you can claim a keep and wait for those who have characters logged out on top of the keep after it upgrades to being red.

If I wanted to RvR at keeps, I'd would have stayed on the blue servers. If I wanted to farm keeps for glass and scales, I'd have rolled on the PvE server.

 

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impstomper  1 star
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alotta people are leaving ywain due to the zergs not the nf...this game is based upon nf.... we switched to nf cuz it was clear were to go for pvp...hey element own berk lets go there we know there will be ppl there blah blah...shit i go to pve spots and find ppl i go to goth and find people(and playing in peak times obviously makes a difference)

 

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dannica  1 star
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impstomperw posted:

switched to nf cuz it was clear were to go for pvp...hey element own berk lets go there we know there will be ppl



This is the first time I've seen a Mordred vet say this. In retrospect, it's not surprising given that a lot of the threads are about NF and keeps, however action in NF is not something that was made clear by what other players say. Based on the explicit statements from others, Cotswold, Goth, and Oceanus Haven appeared to be the go-to places for PvP.


impstomperw posted:

shit i go to pve spots and find ppl



Would you mind sharing the specific spots you visit and find people? I sure haven't found people at the common places. Perhaps the dragon zone in Hib is far superior to those of Mid and Alb - I've never been there. I personally have no qualms with killing people who are exping - I'm still RR1 and quite desperate for any kind of action here - as long as they con at least blue. However, as best I can tell, people are avoiding the common exp areas and old school Mordred PvP spots.

 

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KeepTake  1 star
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Registered: 2010-12-30 22:55:15
Dannica posted:

However, as best I can tell, people are avoiding the common exp areas and old school Mordred PvP spots.



In other words, people got smart?
dannica  1 star
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KeepTake posted:

Dannica posted:

However, as best I can tell, people are avoiding the common exp areas and old school Mordred PvP spots.



In other words, people got smart?



Got smart? Is this August 2002? Hell, there has been no one around to kill you at exp spots in the last 4 years.

While leveling up, I would have gladly been ganked 15+ times if it meant having as many chances to fight someone who coned orange-blue.

As was stated in the OP, I played in what should be relatively high traffic areas and only saw one other person from 1-49; I was level 28-ish at the time and this person ran by and then returned to give me some greatly appreciated emerald seals.

 

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Greasygypsy  1 star
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KeepTake posted:

Dannica posted:

However, as best I can tell, people are avoiding the common exp areas and old school Mordred PvP spots.



In other words, people got smart?



smart people avoid pvp on a pvp server?

here's where you should be if you want to pvp: si towns, Cots, Toa towns. but it seems you want to rvr...

 

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KeepTake  1 star
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Registered: 2010-12-30 22:55:15
I was more commenting on the PvE spots... In regards to PvP people are stupid and stick to the zones you mentioned that allow easy porting.

Only reason people avoid common PvE spots is so they don't get killed thus slowing down how long it takes them to get into PvP..

This whole post is pretty much complaining there are tons of people out PvE'ing so they can actually be competitive when they are done. Handing out crazy amounts of loot and people getting PL'd to 50 is bad here I guess??? Everyone should play the old school way and take 1+ months to be ready for PvP, or much, much longer...

NF helps new people more than anything else if they can get scales AND glass for little effort and not much time, how is that bad?

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