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Quazimortal  4 stars
Title: The One and Only
Posts: 1,557
Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
I'm surprised to hear the first combat upgrade didn't cause a loss of players. I've yet to hear anything good said about it from anyone.

 

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kobenator  1 star
Posts: 76
Registered: 2002-1-25 01:51:59
the first combat upgrade really wasnt that drastic and most of hte big changes were needed. they added levels to players, but they were almost meaningless. they took away the queueing up of specials. before you could queue up an infinite amount of specials and just let htem go. now you could queue up one. the standardized armors and damage types. initially the game seemed harder. previously to level you would join a group of 20 and everyone would go solo. the reason you joined the groupw as to make missions or spawns larger so you could get more experience. groups were reduced to 8 and it was a lot harder to do that, you needed heals now. it forded people to group up and play together. really not a bad thing imo. pvp was much better. before the cu it was all about dizzy+kd and mind attacks. most of those were given counters or made less effective so there was more strategy to it. still nothing compared to daoc which still imo has bar none the best combat system of any mmo. ofcourse you will get comments from bitter players who lost overpowered abilities or items that should have never existed, but you have to take certain things with a grain of salt. imagine if daoc had 30 dps weapons that were 1 in a million drop rate, thats not smart so they get rid of them. there was quite a bit of stuff like that that the cu got rid of.

really the first combat upgrade was not a change to the combat system, it just tweaked a ton of stuff. but the professions and combat were all still pretty much the same. now the nge was huge, it was like an entirely new game. everything was completely different. there was no semblance of anything left. and it was done horribly and it was done fast and it was done with out th eplayer base on board. it went to test and within a week people were saying this is bad youc ant do this even if we liked this system it is so bug ridden and horribly implemented it cant fly. it went live with only two weeks of open testing. after going live there were mass exodus of players. senators and players who were part of the closed testing let it be known that they thought concept was ok for nge but there was no way it could go live as is, but everyone was ignored. to make things worst they were working on the nge while they were working on a new expansion, the expansion was being advertised one way but they new it would not be that way since the nge was going live a couple weeks later. people were gearing up lawsuits against them but they quickly refunded everyone on the expansion. it will always be the worst fiasco in mmo history. and i think thats where people get stuck with the life support comments and that is why i call your comment ill informed. its been 6 years, a lot has changed. soe has publically admitted regret and said they would do things differently. the game is good now and has a thriving player base. sure its no wow and not even close but what is? the populations were actually very slowly increasing as people who gave it another try during a promo event or whatever stayed on realizing the game had come a long way and a lot of the things they enjoyed were back without some of the things that they disliked.
Quazimortal  4 stars
Title: The One and Only
Posts: 1,557
Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
Well in that case I'll take back my comment about it being on life support. You've gone into the most detail I've read about the state of the current SWG. If I were to believe everyone else about the game it would still be doing as poorly as it was when the NGE was implemented. Since you've gone out of the way to explain how it isn't I'll believe you.

 

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PasswordLLOTH  3 stars
Title: i can haz title
Posts: 517
Registered: 2007-6-13 17:45:05
yeah your mad

 

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Unacceptablenick  1 star
Posts: 70
Registered: 2008-12-17 18:33:03
Mplode posted:

Hey Beavers, are you guys playing again?



this

 

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Gringor  1 star
Title: Hungry Beaver
Posts: 95
Registered: 2004-3-13 09:20:16
Unacceptablenick posted:

Mplode posted:

Hey Beavers, are you guys playing again?



this



Jenny played for a couple of weeks, I'm the only one active and I''m assuming that I'll cancel at summer's end once the weekly raids disappear. For now with the Thursdays and Sunday raids, its fun enough to get my 15 bucks.

 

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kobenator  1 star
Posts: 76
Registered: 2002-1-25 01:51:59
unofficial news leaking from soe fanfaire is that the decision by soe and lucas arts to end swg was not mutual and was entirely made by lucasarts. ofcourse has to be taken with a grain of salt as its not being confirmed and in these types of events the devs and community relation managers tend to tell the fans what they want to hear.
VN_Somniac
Posts: 45
Registered: 2003-9-2 15:46:10
Damn, jenny, gring, mplode, and trilo .. all on one post.

... and to balance that, we have quaz and loth.

After reading 4 pages of drivel by you two, I just want you both to know that after the 6th post or so, I had a mental filter that only allowed me to see 'blah blah blah' where your text was.

 

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Quazimortal  4 stars
Title: The One and Only
Posts: 1,557
Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
VN_Somniac posted:

Damn, jenny, gring, mplode, and trilo .. all on one post.

... and to balance that, we have quaz and loth.

After reading 4 pages of drivel by you two, I just want you both to know that after the 6th post or so, I had a mental filter that only allowed me to see 'blah blah blah' where your text was.



I'd appreciate not being lumped in with Pass as I wasn't trolling at all. I was having an actual discussion with Kobe when everyone else decided to start trolling and flaming me.

 

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PasswordLLOTH  3 stars
Title: i can haz title
Posts: 517
Registered: 2007-6-13 17:45:05
Quazimortal posted:

I wasn't trolling at all


me neither~

 

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