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Liquid741  Title: VN Sensei
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his career of stupidity isnt over i fear.
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Liquid741 Title: VN Sensei
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-Alessio- posted:
Are you guys on crack or something?
The district attorney has already said that Ben will not be charged. He said "looking at all the
evidence here, we don’t even have probable cause. Probable cause is the standard to make an
arrest, and we did not have that. Also the little whore who accused him told the DA through her lawyer that
she no longer wanted to pursue criminal charges.
HELLO??! She never had a case, she probably just wanted to gain some media attention from the whole thing. Or maybe she became teenage-girl-angry because Ben turned her request for a photo/signature down for what ever reason, as he is in his fully right to do.
And now he even as to watch several matches sidelined, even though he was never found guilty of anything. Complete effing bs.
Our law systems works like this: Innocent until proven guilty. So now stop all your nonsense jabbering and act like you're a part of a modern western civilized society. His dad might be a rich sob. Ben might even be a rich sob. But does that mean you should think he is guilty because some 20yo prat accuses him for something that he actually didn't do?
Huges07.1 from what you have heard "Ben thought he was above the law"... oh well well well, was he ever actually above the law? No. Will he ever get to be? No. Maybe there was just a few jealous punks around your little town who wanted to have a rich dad and be the college QB who Ben was? To me, that sounds a whole lot more probable, than what you have heard from some obscure source about Ben at some point during his childhood in a little town in the northeastern Ohio.
Stop the hate campaign and get down to the facts: Not guilty.
wow...you sound like the biggest homer i have encountered in sometime, poor Ben...he is the victim, its a shame he keeps putting himself into this situation over and over...its all those women who are opportunists. i guess since Ben's judgement is suspect we should listen to the mass amount of teammates that came to his aid via "having his back".
what about the cop? Milledgeville Police Chief Woodrow Blue confirmed that Sgt. Jerry Blash, the officer who took the first report from Roethlisberger's accuser, resigned from the force Wednesday, a day before the Georgia Bureau of Investigation released the case documents. if he was innocent, then why would he quit?
if he was innocent then why the suspension from the league...im sure the type of suspension that he received wasnt just because we keeps putting himself in this ugly situation.
again, poor Ben he is such the victim.
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-Alessio- Title: Dane-gerous bashmeister!
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Registered: 2003-5-8 01:26:59
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Date Posted:
3/6/10 3:18am
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You guys read my post and completely missed the point?
It has nothing, what so ever, to do about poor Ben. I couldn't give a rats a## if it is poor Ben or nice Ben. Fact is that the charges were dropped because of lack of evidence, for what ever reason. Yes he MIGHT be guilty, but since he was NOT convicted he is innocent according to the way the legal system works. Like it or not.
Liquid741, you got it all figured out right...? Let's leave all legal and justice matters to the NFL in all future crime cases, because I'm sure they are more capable of finding out who's guilty compared to police officers, lawyers, etc. Their ban of Roethlisberger were completely justified because he actually did assault that girl... oh wait, no he didn't. [Read previous point].
Let me repeat just in case you didn't get it: He wasn't found guilty. That means he is innocent. That how the system works. And that's how it works best. Now that you Americans have a screwed up law system where you can pretty much pay you off any crime as we have seen on numerous occasions is a completely different story.
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Registered: 2004-9-8 19:48:09
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Date Posted:
3/6/10 3:18am
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The NFL player conduct policy does not say that they will suspend you only for getting convicted of a crime. They will suspend you for acting in a way that is harmful to the league, and Goodell must have judged that his actions need to stop before they get any worse. The suspension will likely be a four game suspension. This was not a result of one single incident, but a combonation from several different incidents. The suspension was fair and on par for other suspensions Goodell has handed down. I did not hear you standing up for Pacman Jones a few years ago when he got suspended after having never been convicted of anything either. The fact is a conviction is not required for reprecussions from the NFL. Act like a pro or sit on the bench that is the message Goodell is sending with this suspension, the question is will Rothlisberger listen?
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Ynisfre  Posts: 249
Registered: 2009-5-28 17:37:45
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We missed the point? You made assumptions about the girl, going so far as to spin fictions in speculation about her motivations. You also failed to understand the NFL conduct policy and the court of public opinion are not subject to the standards of courts of law. Whether you are or not, you came off like a Big Ben fanboy. If somebody wants to think he's guilty, that's their right as much as it is yours to think the girl is a opportunistic "prat." None of us have to prove our opinions.
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-Alessio- Title: Dane-gerous bashmeister!
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I do not fail to understand the NFL policies in any way. I just strongly disagree with them.
I am not a Big Ben fanboy in specific, but I am a fan of Steelers. Not that my opinion on this matter has anything to do with what team I support. In terms of Pacman Jones I do not think any ban is justified unless the person is actually guilty, but since this was a discussion about Big Ben I didn't feel there was reason to sidetrack it to Pacman Jones.
And yes I would tend to believe that a lot of those people who accuses sports stars, musicians and idols in general do it for the money. The "prat" comment was just as much pointed to many of those other persons who tries to pull this trick.
And you're right Ynisfre, you as everyone else, has their right to express an opinion, but I suppose these forums are here for discussion and debate so we can share knowledge, wisdom, experiences, believes and disbelieves with each other and become happy, entertained, more knowledgable or accumulate new point of views. I have an opinion that I at the MOMENT feel is superior to your, or others, opinions. I will try to convince those persons about my opinion and maybe if those persons comes up with some good, strong and valid points they might be able to turn me around. Or vice versa. Isn't that's why talk to each other and debate topics we are passionate about?
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Ynisfre Posts: 249
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We can argue about the appropriateness of the penalty under the conduct policy, but that's not what you were doing in your initial post. You were trying to pick apart the reasons why people thought Ben was guilty, or to blame in some way, but your counter-arguments were all speculation as well. We can't discuss this intelligently because there's almost nothing factual to discuss. Just vague details. The girl may be an opportunist, but none of us are going to talk about her again, whereas Big Ben is going to be on our TVs every Sunday in the fall for the next 7-10 years. That's why we're bothering to give an opinion on him. Because he's relevant. None of us know if the girl is really a blameless victim, but we do know Ben put himself in a stupid position again by getting drunk and having some sort of sexual encounter in a public place. He's still got a civil suit pending on that other accusation. For a lot people where there's smoke there's fire. For me personally, I tend to not consider whether Ben assaulted the girl or not; I don't feel the need to render an opinion on that with no real facts. But I know I don't want to cheer for a guy who seems like a total idiot at best, and a rapist at worst.
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Liquid741 Title: VN Sensei
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Registered: 2006-12-16 13:56:50
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Amendial posted:
The NFL player conduct policy does not say that they will suspend you only for getting convicted of a crime. They will suspend you for acting in a way that is harmful to the league, and Goodell must have judged that his actions need to stop before they get any worse. The suspension will likely be a four game suspension. This was not a result of one single incident, but a combonation from several different incidents. The suspension was fair and on par for other suspensions Goodell has handed down. I did not hear you standing up for Pacman Jones a few years ago when he got suspended after having never been convicted of anything either. The fact is a conviction is not required for reprecussions from the NFL. Act like a pro or sit on the bench that is the message Goodell is sending with this suspension, the question is will Rothlisberger listen?
-Alessio-, i dont think they would suspend him for playing checkers with that girl.
As a result of the unabridged details revealed in Bright's press conference, reaction was swift. Steelers president Art Rooney II was reported to be "furious".[99] The owner of Pittsburgh-based PLB Sports, which marketed "Big Ben's Beef Jerky", terminated the company's five-year sponsorship of Roethlisberger, the first such action in the company's 14 year history.[100][101] The incident has also garnered media attention for the potential discrepancies in player treatment based on race, as black players like Michael Vick and Adam "Pacman" Jones were disciplined harshly for their off-the-field conduct.[102] Milledgeville Police Sergeant Jerry Blash, who had been photographed with Roethlisberger earlier in the evening, was the first officer to respond to the scene. He resigned on April 15, 2010, after apparently making a comment at the scene that "this bitch is drunk" in reference to the accuser
hmm, even the owner, some sponsor, the commish...these are some of the most important people in his life...i guess im at a loss since he is innocent. not sure what all the hub-bub, is about.
and since you are a Steelers fan, im surprised reaction to this original post/posts...the Steelers have been one of the teams in the league that have the owners which represent somewhat of the moral code of conduct...good family and even better owners...which should and is respected. to have this huge blemish that isnt a one time thing and to defend him as you have is shameful. oh, and his attorney isnt even going to fight the suspension...whey in the *&%K not? he's innocent...!
Ben Roethlisberger innocent victim 
oh and how did you guys like my Colts blue in this post...did it for Amendial.
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Liquid741 posted:
oh and how did you guys like my Colts blue in this post...did it for Amendial.
are you sure that he'll see it as Colts blue and not Jayhawk blue?
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Liquid741 Title: VN Sensei
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Pariahwulfen posted:
Liquid741 posted:
oh and how did you guys like my Colts blue in this post...did it for Amendial.
are you sure that he'll see it as Colts blue and not Jayhawk blue?
hmm...you could be right  he does lose focus so easily...
ill speak slowly A M E N D I A L...look to the icon left of this post
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