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Desnoxvu  2 stars
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Tych2 posted:

It looks bad to some people that they want voting for him?



That doesn't make sense.

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Desnoxvu  2 stars
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Elocism posted:





Elo, you are a troll. I clicked my link and watched the vid and you still posted before me. That is what a troll does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWEjvCRPrCo

 

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i dont understand the question

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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paulg_68 posted:

What are the negative consequences of Ron Paul not voting on this bill?



I think it sends a pretty clear message about his priorities. Apparently campaigning for a better job is more important than showing up to register opposition to what is clearly an awful bill from a libertarian point of view.


Being there and voting "no" is always going to have a greater impact than saying "oh I'd probably vote no if I wasn't too busy trying to get another job instead of doing my current one" like he did.


If ever there was a time to take a principled stand - which Ron Paul has made his career supposedly doing, if you talk to Ron Paul supporters - this was it. Instead the timing was bad so he didn't bother to show up.


You can spin and spin and spin but it doesn't change the fact that he decided it was better to campaign for another job than vote no against an awful bill totally at odds with his political views.


If he really cared about the issue he would be back in washington on the floor giving them hell. Instead he's shaking the hands of a bunch of morons in Iowa.
Desnoxvu  2 stars
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He has been the lone vote on every bill against civil rights. Remember he is the only one trying to repeal the patriot act. He was on the campaign trail so don't act self righteous.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlz8zQoLs1s

 

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Tych2  4 stars
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Desnoxvu posted:

Tych2 posted:

It looks bad to some people that they want voting for him?



That doesn't make sense.

I was answering Paul's question. Perhaps English isn't your primary.

 

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Altra_Shadowstalker  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-17 11:48:15
Desnoxvu posted:

He has been the lone vote on every bill against civil rights. Remember he is the only one trying to repeal the patriot act. He was on the campaign trail so don't act self righteous.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlz8zQoLs1s



Apparently that's meaningless. You cant have it both ways, either its a wasted vote when its such a large margin, or he's making a stand and failed to stand up this time.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Desnoxvu posted:

He has been the lone vote on every bill against civil rights.



Except this one apparently. When over 100 members of the house voted against it, but he was too busy shaking hands in Iowa to bother to show up to stand in solidarity with those no voters.
Desnoxvu  2 stars
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Here is his stance on NDAA. Don't question his votes on civil liberties without research.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm19GQKNWeM

 

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