This, obviously.

These are just getting boring to read now.

Voting no would have been a futile effort in the pursuit of liberty.

Ron Paul becoming President would not be futile.

 

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That's one of the dumbest Paulg arguments you have made here in a while.


The guy has built his career on saying futile gestures matter and the difference between him and others is that he actually puts his vote where his mouth is. But they apparently don't matter enough to actually bother voting against bad legislation when you could be out trying to get a new job instead.


Again it's one of those things that isn't a huge deal unless you're a kool-aid drinking Ron Paul supporter who thinks everything Ron Paul does is right.


It was not right to skip out on a vote on such important legislation because you want to campaign instead. It doesn't make Ron Paul the devil, but it wasn't right based on his own principles.

As I recall, the issue came up in 2008 that Obama had missed a rather high number of votes for such a short stint in Congress. The rationale was given at the time that he had already been campaigning for a year.

Just sayin'.

 

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The fact that you've got your flame thrower on full blast over Ron Paul is far more telling to me than me actually listening to what the man has said, does say and has been interviewed about. Didn't any of you actually watch that full CNN video? She asked him point blank about the NDAA and he said well I was here in Iowa but were I there I would have most certainly voted no.


YOU CANNOT BE MORE CLEAR THAN THAT.


Goddamn you guys are flailing about like Dr. Paul is the fuggin antichrist or something.

 

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I dont think Yuki was complaining that Paul makes lots of futile efforts.


That he makes futile but principled efforts is basically Ron Pauls entire marketing strategy. Its what makes the outpost Ron Paul groupies hearts flutter.


But now that the principled vote might have consequences for the first time in his career....Ron Paul hides. This really cuts at the only good reason ever given to vote for Ron Paul.

Well, it sorta matters what the votes were about. Congress has votes every day on stupid shit like renaming January 10th official Douchetastic Politician Day.


But to the extent that Obama or anyone else skipped out on important votes in order to campaign, that wasn't the right decision either. We elect people to do a job, not to spend their time trying to get another job.

If he didn't vote no, who would have? When politicians justify their legislation they usually say, "it passed 87-10"

Thank you Ron Paul, for allowing this legislation to pass with nary a whisper.

 

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That you think anyone has their flame thrower on full blast just shows how totally emotionally invested in Ron Paul you are. Nobody is saying Ron Paul is the antichrist because he chose to stay in Iowa and campaign instead of doing the job we elected him to do. Lots of other politicians do the same thing.


It is you crazy Ron Paulistas who think your guy is somehow totally immune to any pressure mere mortals feel and that he can do no wrong.


This is another case where the rational Paul supported would say "yep, he's trading principle for pragmatism but that's ok by me given the rest of his record, no one is perfect." But none of you guys can do that, apparently, because you're so emotionally invested in the saintliness of your candidate.


The thing that is so striking about you Ron Paul people is your sheer fanatical devotion to the guy. You make 2008 Obama kool aid drinkers look rational. It is hard to find even a single one of you that will admit your guy is human and mmakes mistakes. The slightest criticism elicits a completely rabid response.

I agree, he should be making a bigger deal out of this. "Vote for me and I'll fight to repeal the parts of the NDAA that give me the authority to jail you indefinitely!". That would actually be a fairly smart tack for him to take at this point.

Unfortunately, Paul has not typically been known for taking smart tacks on the road to the White House, which is why he'll end up being no more than a footnote in American politics.

 

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