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Good news to you Outposters..HS Diploma req. to be illegal... [Locked] |
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I fail to see how a HS Diploma or lack thereof has any standing on whether a person "appears disengaged, disinterested, lazy, of poor attitude, incapable of following conversation, etc."
If you cannot figure that out without the High School Diploma question... should you really be making hiring decisions?
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Tych2  Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Lyndrek posted:
Tych2 posted:
Orwyn_Blackheart posted:
Why dont you finish taking off that black underwear and i will work my long and hard commitment into you, you will be suitably impressed.
I have no idea what that even means, but I am not surprised you don't even have a HS diploma
I think he thinks that your icon is actually you.
 oh god help me
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Shimatta33  Posts: 142
Registered: 2003-11-19 23:55:28
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Remnant_OBrien posted:
I fail to see how a HS Diploma or lack thereof has any standing on whether a person "appears disengaged, disinterested, lazy, of poor attitude, incapable of following conversation, etc."
I agree with you 100% there. If somebody has those characteristics they aren't getting the job even if they have 20 doctorates.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Shimatta33 posted:
They wouldn't be getting screwed by the people setting a legitimate bar of requiring a high school diploma.
If it's legitimate it's fine.
The problem comes when people start setting arbitrary standards which in effect rule out minorities and disabled people.
Contrary to AA's unsupported assertion, there are plenty of jobs for which a high school diploma really ISN'T required or even remotely related. Construction, cleaning, collection being obvious exmaples.
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Shimatta33 posted:
If we want to stretch things the way you seem to want to stretch things then JPL should be forced to hire people with electrical engineering degrees from an online degree mill because that student might have only been able to get into that college instead of MIT because of a learning disability and you can't look at the difference of credentials between the two schools because that's a possibility.
That comparison doesn't work.
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Shimatta33 Posts: 142
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Remnant_OBrien posted:
Shimatta33 posted:
If we want to stretch things the way you seem to want to stretch things then JPL should be forced to hire people with electrical engineering degrees from an online degree mill because that student might have only been able to get into that college instead of MIT because of a learning disability and you can't look at the difference of credentials between the two schools because that's a possibility.
That comparison doesn't work.
because............ 
What's different from having a set employment standard for an education level and somebody not meeting it vs. having a set employment standard for an education level and somebody not meeting it?
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Shimatta33 Posts: 142
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Yukishiro1 posted:
Shimatta33 posted:
They wouldn't be getting screwed by the people setting a legitimate bar of requiring a high school diploma.
If it's legitimate it's fine.
I think it's well within a company's right to determine the education level required for their employees regardless of the position as long as it's uniform and consistent. It's their business and their determination.
Yukishiro1 posted:
The problem comes when people start setting arbitrary standards which in effect rule out minorities and disabled people.
Absolutely agree. I don't see a high school diploma as one of them unless you're only asking for one from particular applicants.
Yukishiro1 posted:
Contrary to AA's unsupported assertion, there are plenty of jobs for which a high school diploma really ISN'T required or even remotely related. Construction, cleaning, collection being obvious exmaples.
I can't agree with you there. For many employers a high school diploma (even a university one often times) is often viewed as more of a reflection on your ability to follow through with commitments and complete tasks rather than how much you actually know about something. If an employer decides that a high school diploma is a benchmark then they should be allowed to set it as a benchmark as long as they do so consistently.
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because questioning the necessity of high school diploma requirements doesn't equate to being forced to treat all graduate programs and advanced degrees as equal.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
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Shimatta33 posted:
I can't agree with you there. For many employers a high school diploma (even a university one often times) is often viewed as more of a reflection on your ability to follow through with commitments and complete tasks rather than how much you actually know about something. If an employer decides that a high school diploma is a benchmark then they should be allowed to set it as a benchmark as long as they do so consistently.
So is this the "special exception" rationale? What if they wanted to require a B.A. for their garbage collectors? What about an MA? A PhD? Is all of that fine, when you know the result of that is going to be a bunch of disabled and minority people who could do the job perfectly well being screened out of the job?
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Shimatta33 Posts: 142
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Remnant_OBrien posted:
because questioning the necessity of high school diploma requirements doesn't equate to being forced to treat all graduate programs and advanced degrees as equal.
You can question the necessity of all degrees and diplomas from high school ones to graduate ones with respect to the specific tasks a role entails so I fail to see the difference.
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