The problem Yuk is you are asking humans without the base background in a business to take control of who is hired over someone who has this background.

If someone is a good worker I should have the right to promote them over someone who has been there longer. If I feel my garbage truck driver should have the capability of advancement or I would not waste my time training them; that should be my choice. It should not be the choice of a government official with no understanding of my requirements or future goals.

People discriminate all the time. We use to call that a judgment call. You need to think instead of doing the liberal reaction to what you see as an injustice. Freedom is ugly sometimes but it is far better than slavery.

 

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No one's saying you arn't allowed to ask. But they are saying that the law says that you can't use an arbitrary requirement to screen out disabled people. And the law is set up to put the burden of explaining why your requirement isn't arbitrary on the employer...you know, the one who knows why they made it a requirement in the first place?

If you view a high school diploma as a positive for a job applicant no one's picking a bone with you. If you throw anyone without a diploma in the trash and you can't articulate a good reason why, and the effect of that is that you're discriminating against disabled people, the law does have a problem with it.

And no one's trying to take those choices away from you.

Your examples are silly because they have nothing to do with the issue.

What about this one:

Do you also think you should be able to choose not to hire a disabled person, even though they're perfectly qualified for the job, simply because you don't want to hire a disabled person?

In order to even get off home plate, you must prove a High School diploma is, in fact, an invalid requirement to ask for or use in screening *any* job. Any job at all.

We're still waiting. We'll wait a long time because your position is unprovable and unknowable. Therefore, it has no business existing in law. None whatsoever.

It is forced charity. And nothing more.

 

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I listened to you, but you evidently didn't listen to you.

 

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Would be great if I didnt have to spend 60+ grand to get a college degree that doesn't guarantee me a job :/ QQ.

But everyone should be 100% required to get a high school diploma or equivalent.

 

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Oh I'm not arguing with him.

I get my jollies by poking at the worm sizzling on the sidewalk until it just stops moving, is all.

I'm essentially just repeating the first relevant question over and over again.

Yuki won't answer. He can't. So there's no need to 'argue'.

 

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A lot of this, I suspect, is coming around now due to NCLB and shrinking state budgets.

NCLB = standardized grad requirements = more Special Ed students walking away without a diploma.
State budgets = fewer handouts for the disabled

Put them together and you probably have yet another disturbing trend in the job market - more disabled people looking for work with no diploma.

The thing is, although this is likely a problem on the rise, this isn't really anything new. HR departments aren't (or shouldn't be) scrambling to suddenly justify every diploma-less applicant they turned away. An HR person should be capable of articulating the reasons basing a job hire on diploma status a hell of a lot better than AA's "Tell my why I shouldn't" (which, by the way, probably would be rather dumb to try in the context of a discrimination lawsuit). In fact I doubt this is new to anyone who hires en mass at the general level of pr0n-shop jizzmopper. EEOC's recommendations are typically built from court precedent, since the court has to spend so much time defining the obnoxiously vague wording of Title VII and ADA.

 

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What on earth are you on about now? Because having a high school diploma is relevant for some jobs employers should be able to require it for all jobs? Is that a serious argument?


That's about like saying "because strippers need to be female I will refuse to accept applicants from any male nurses!"