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Remnant_OBrien  2 stars
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Registered: 2003-5-11 17:03:52
paulg_68 posted:

Remnant_OBrien posted:

Cawlin, I have a question for you.

Do you believe that some people should have more freedoms than others?

I generally think accessibility of freedoms should be equal, and with that goal in mind i fail to see how to avoid pursuing a common denominator.


When Obrien says "freedoms" he means other people's money.





Someday you'll move beyond your premise that money = freedom. It's pretty distorted.

 

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Moe_Nox  4 stars
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Remnant_OBrien posted:

Someday you'll move beyond your premise that money = freedom. It's pretty distorted.


Actually that screams of projection.

 

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Remnant_OBrien  2 stars
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Cawlin posted:

Modern day liberalism is about outlawing bikes.



You can tell because there are so many bike bans, and car bans and yacht bans, and airplane bans.

Stuff isn't freedom.

 

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Aerlinthian  4 stars
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Remnant_OBrien posted:

Someday you'll move beyond your premise that money = freedom. It's pretty distorted.

Do you use the locks that are on your doors/vehicles, etc?
Tych2  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
Remnant_OBrien posted:

Tych2 posted:

Are you trying to convince conservatives to become liberals?



No not really. I'm pretty sure everyone here is pretty set on what they believe.

You'd be surprised. People change. I've run the gambit in my life and I expect I shall change outlooks a few more times. I've changed my mind on a few topics since being here. Some from natural evolution, some from good arguments. I think you have better luck trying on issues rather than a wholesale change.

I asked because I was curious.

 

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Remnant_OBrien  2 stars
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Moe_Nox posted:

Remnant_OBrien posted:

Someday you'll move beyond your premise that money = freedom. It's pretty distorted.


Actually that screams of projection.



It's not me who first example of a freedom involves the right to purchase and consume. That's Paul and Cawlin. My first example of a freedom would be equal access to the ballot box. The next would be gay rights.

 

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Remnant_OBrien  2 stars
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Registered: 2003-5-11 17:03:52
Tych2 posted:

Remnant_OBrien posted:

Tych2 posted:

Are you trying to convince conservatives to become liberals?



No not really. I'm pretty sure everyone here is pretty set on what they believe.

You'd be surprised. People change. I've run the gambit in my life and I expect I shall change outlooks a few more times. I've changed my mind on a few topics since being here. Some from natural evolution, some from good arguments. I think you have better luck trying on issues rather than a wholesale change.

I asked because I was curious.



Well this thread certainly isn't aimed at convincing anyone. I probably still try in other threads from time to time.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
Remnant_OBrien posted:

Moe_Nox posted:

Remnant_OBrien posted:

Someday you'll move beyond your premise that money = freedom. It's pretty distorted.


Actually that screams of projection.



It's not me who first example of a freedom involves the right to purchase and consume. That's Paul and Cawlin. My first example of a freedom would be equal access to the ballot box. The next would be gay rights.



Who doesn't have access to a ballot box that is an American citizen over the age of 18 and not a convicted felon?

 

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Remnant_OBrien  2 stars
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Plenty of people. You should probably try googling it.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
Remnant_OBrien posted:

Plenty of people. You should probably try googling it.



I'm asking you to prove your statement. Is that all you have?

 

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