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Koneg  Title: Evil Genius
Posts: 894
Registered: 2001-12-4 15:31:28
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Texas police kill 8th-grader carrying pellet gun |
sweeny_comodore posted:
Police have one job in life and that is to ensure suspects get their day in court.
They are not enforcers. They are not a punishment squad.
Here they preemptively shot a KID for holding a pellet gun.
Who forgot to bring the beanbags and forced them to use their real guns?
Thish is a clear case of modern fear mongering causing cops to over react.
Cops are supposed to be trained to handle a crisis wirh a cool and level head to end it in a peaceful manor.
Translation: The officers should have waited until one or more of them was killed before they returned fire.
Right. 
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Cawlin  Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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Yukishiro1 posted:
The shot in the back of the head is pretty weird. I didn't see that before.
I mean maybe he got shot and fell and turned as he fell and then got shot again. But it's still weird. Cops shouldn't be shooting for the head at all.*
*inb4 internet idiot says "wut if he's wearing body armor!!111
You can bet that that particular factoid was put into the story with intent to stir the pot and make it seem like the hit the kid with a coup de grace style shot to ensure no testimony blah blah blah...
However, yes, I'd bet that it happened more or less as you said (and that is how I imagined it when I read about the hit to the head). Likely one cop fired a quick two rounds as they are trained. It is exceptionally difficult to keep muzzle flip from causing your second shot to go high in such a situation and also, as you postulate, the kid may have been turning/running/lunging/falling, who knows...
Honestly, if anyone went to a local range some time and spent a few bucks to get a lesson and rent a gun for an hour and understand some of the logistics and forces involved in shooting, things like one of the shots hitting the kid in the head would seem much more plausible to you.
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Z-Elder Posts: 671
Registered: 2002-3-15 13:58:39
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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Well I can understand that most cops today are very afraid of Middle Schoolers! Especially Brown ones!
Protect and Serve, other cops.
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eodoll Posts: 1,028
Registered: 2002-2-14 12:35:42
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Date Posted:
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i could maybe just maybe be convinced the militay can have a fire first ask later mentality in a dangerous situation.
police never... in fact, police should not even be allowed to carry weapons. if they can have weapons then all of us should be allowed to.
i see no need for me to have a gun and therefore the police have no need.
they have tasers and batons - thats good enough
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Date Posted:
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Texas police kill 8th-grader carrying pellet gun |
Z-Elder posted:
Well I can understand that most cops today are very afraid of Middle Schoolers! Especially Brown ones!
Protect and Serve, other cops.
Exactly.
Everyone seems to be full of what ifs to excuse away the murder of a kid.
What if its only a pellet gun or a slice of pizza?
What happened to erring on the side of caution?
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Halloweve  Posts: 422
Registered: 2004-3-6 10:19:02
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That is sad. He probably got it for Christmas and was showing it off his first day back from winter break.
I will say tho, we have a Ruger air rifle (pellet gun) with a short barrel and a scope..it looks very real.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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Date Posted:
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Halloweve posted:
That is sad. He probably got it for Christmas and was showing it off his first day back from winter break.
I will say tho, we have a Ruger air rifle (pellet gun) with a short barrel and a scope..it looks very real.
The article said that his parents say they didn't buy it for him and were not aware of where he got it from.
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MayorShade Title: Not Special Forces
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Registered: 2004-3-1 10:40:52
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Date Posted:
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sweeny_comodore posted:
Exactly.
Everyone seems to be full of what ifs to excuse away the murder of a kid.
What if its only a pellet gun or a slice of pizza?
What happened to erring on the side of caution?
You have pretty much been dead wrong about everything you've posted in this thread. You have shown that you have near to no understanding of several concepts, including the following: Guns, bullets, laws, non-lethal/less-than-lethal munitions, slices of pizza, murder and logical thought. You ask, "what happened to erring on the side of caution?" Are you fuckin stupid? I'll clue you in: They did "err" on the side of caution. They shot at a suspect who was armed with what appeared to be a lethal weapon and who brandished it in a threatening manner, refusing to drop it and submit. That is PRECISELY cautious. It is the type of caution that mitigates against the risk that 1) the law enforcement officers will be shot, and 2) anyone innocent civilians will be shot. Son, please, for the sake of the rest of the people around you, never EVER put yourself in any type of position in which you are responsible for making decisions that can affect the lives or health of others. Don't breed. In fact, just stay in your house/apartment as much as humanly possible. What a dummy.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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Texas police kill 8th-grader carrying pellet gun |
Avtually they acted out of fear and prejudism.
They assumed it was a deadly weapon and lives were in danger because everyone knows kids only bring guns yo school if they are part of the trench coat mafia.
Anyone who thinks its ok for police to shoot first is a murderous thug.
Situations like this are exactly why non lethal munitions wete invented.
had they shot this kid with a beanbag and killed him anyway, I would be in full support..
they didnt even try to think it through and resolve the situation in a logical manor.
They rushed in scared out of theur minds, hollared at the kid then blew his brains out.
Every one of those cops saw himself as a hero prwventing another columbine.
Oops.
it was jyst a pellet gun.
Boy are their faces red
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vn_nnanji Title: Outpost Music Expert
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Registered: 2001-6-30 17:22:56
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Date Posted:
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Koneg posted:
A "righteous" shooting means the shooter acted appropriately and made the correct judgement when he or she pulled the trigger.
No it means you watch too many cops shows and think the lingo is cool.
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