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Abaddon_Ambrosius  4 stars
Title: Retired Theurgist TL
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Registered: 2001-12-21 09:51:39
vn_nnanji posted:

Sin_of_Onin posted:

20 minutes from pulling gun to getting shot is pretty clear indication that it is not a columbine situation.



So you are saying that since nobody got shot in that 20 minutes the cops should have assumed he wasn't going to shoot anyone?

Would you bet your life on that?



I'll just let nnanji ream you guys if he wants to vent, as a proxy for me... because the flimsy stuff being set up to rationalize against the cops here isn't even worth the time to discuss.

meh.

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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vn_nnanji posted:

Sin_of_Onin posted:

20 minutes from pulling gun to getting shot is pretty clear indication that it is not a columbine situation.



So you are saying that since nobody got shot in that 20 minutes the cops should have assumed he wasn't going to shoot anyone?


Would you bet your life on that?



Yeah they shouldn't even bother to show up. That was totally my point. Thanks for playing...


strawman

 

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Koneg  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-4 15:31:28
Taliesihne posted:

I'm left to question why they didn't use a non-lethal weapon in response to the incident.

How many times does it need to be explained before it sinks in?? You do not reach for non-lethal weapons when you're facing down someone with a gun in their freekin hand. Doing so is an excellent way to get dead.

 

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Mastara  4 stars
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Registered: 2004-12-29 22:52:21
Wow that sucks. I mean it was excessive but on a pellet gun there should be something that makes it stand out as such most of the time. But I guess in the heat of the moment one wouldnt notice. But thats exactly why they should notice it. If the heat hadnt been brought on by school shootings and nutjobs then they wouldn't have taken that action. When told to put the weapon down he should have complied. Either way sticky situation. That sucks

 

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reesescups  4 stars
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Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
Cawlin posted:

You , swirly, and sin are all on witch hunts trying to vilify these cops

Yeah - I'm saying he did the right thing under the circumstances

OMG THE VILIFICATION!!!




Seriously dude - you are a class a retard.

 

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Sea_of_inK  2 stars
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Again, all we're going on is the word of the people who shot him. There weren't students or faculty witnesses when the kid got shot unless I missed it, this is by design. The article made it sound like they were running down a hallway and that he simply would not drop the gun.

The police are the people who need to be trusted and depended on to act completely professionally to defuse escalated situations such as this. So long as all we've got is the account of the couple officers who were present when the kid was shot means we'll likely never know for sure if they were totally justified or trigger happy and inexperienced.

The fact they declined to disclose what the kid was saying tells me that they wanted to get their story straight first which raises questions. Really a tough call on this one. Being police is hard. Taking a hard position either way on this one is dumb.

 

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Special-Fred  1 star
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Registered: 2003-7-30 16:12:04
You mean they're holding details for an ongoing investigation like what happens everywhere?

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
Cawlin posted:

sweeny_comodore posted:

lerdl lerdl lerdl lerdl lerdl



You're a drooling monkey over this dude.



and youre getting melty

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
Koneg posted:

SoBaKi posted:

Perhaps we can make police indestructable so they can be shot at without causing any harm?





its their job to get shot at.
its their job to protect the innocent.
holding and pointing a gun or not, hes still innocent untill a judge/jury says otherwise.

unless shots have been fired then they have no justification to shoot first.
shooting first is what less than lethal munitons are for.
then shoot with real guns if that fails.


cops arent there to protect themselves. thats not in their job descriptions and it does not come before protecting the innocent.

this is why we have laws in this country. this is why everyone is innocent untill proven guilty.


so, tell us, cawlin and fellow murderers, what if this was your half retarded kid acting the tough guy in school because he knew it was a pellet gun and no one else did?
would you still be calling for murder or detention and trial by judge/jury?

 

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Grymlo  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-4-30 05:51:06
Lets assume this had been a real gun and the kid ended up putting a bullet into someone there. Then you idiots saying the cops were wrong would be bitching about why the cops didnt put this kid down the minute he pointed the gun at the cops.

 

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