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Texas police kill 8th-grader carrying pellet gun |
there is no reason they could not have shot first with the bean bag and then stormed the kid while he was down with a broken nose from a beanbag to the face.
there is absolutely NO reason that EVERYONES first reply to a stupid kid is to shoot first and ask questions later.
why is it that the publics first reaction is KILL! KILL! KILL! the poor dumb kid.
why not have 2 cops armed with beanbags and the other 10 with .45s?
after 10 mins of shouting start start the hail of beanbags. then if the kid doesnt go down and keeps threatening police you shoot him.
i also want to know how many of you are against the death penalty for REAL criminals proven guilty in a court of law?
and how many more of you are against abortion thats not 15 years after the fact?
30 years ago cops would have just tackled the him rather than have to shoot a kid.
now adays everyone wants to be dirty harry and blast everyone they meet in the face. its no big deal anymore for cops to shoot people, its common place and expected.
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Yukishiro1  Posts: 3,243
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
I am pretty sure needlessly killing children is high up on the list of things people get mad about.
The guy had what was indistinguishable from a real gun and he was pointing it at them and he wouldn't stop pointing it at them. Assuming that information is correct. I can't blame the cops for not wanting to wait till he actually shot one of them.
If you point a gun at the cops and refuse to stop doing it you're gonna get shot. Locking up the cops for doing their job is stupid.
Like I said earlier, this probably could have been resolved without violence and would have been 9 times out of 10. But cops are human too and you can't expect them to wait for him to shoot first in a situation like that. You don't hear about the other 9 times because things get worked out. But things don't always go perfectly in highly charged situations and in an extremely tense situation like that I can't blame the cops for doing what they did.
I am usually firmly on the other side in debates about police brutality but they did nothing wrong here. You cannot ask the police to just stand there and let some kid point a gun at them and not comply with their instructions.
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vn_nnanji posted:
sweeny_comodore posted:
i read the pellet gun belonged to a friend of his. it was a xmas gift, or something, and the two were looking at it by their lockers (acting like dumbasses).
when the cops showed up, they hollared at the kid. he turned and said its just a pellet gun then got shot to death.
ORLY? 
Feel free to provide a link to where you read this.
You simply are not rational when it comes to cops dude. It really is that simple.
and that was a total troll because nobody had any information about anything other than cops killed a kid for holding a pellet gun in school
apparently it worked because it clearly made a couple of you stop and think about your position on murdering a dumb kid.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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sweeny_comodore posted:
vn_nnanji posted:
sweeny_comodore posted:
i read the pellet gun belonged to a friend of his. it was a xmas gift, or something, and the two were looking at it by their lockers (acting like dumbasses).
when the cops showed up, they hollared at the kid. he turned and said its just a pellet gun then got shot to death.
ORLY?
Feel free to provide a link to where you read this.
You simply are not rational when it comes to cops dude. It really is that simple.
and that was a total troll because nobody had any information about anything other than cops killed a kid for holding a pellet gun in school
apparently it worked because it clearly made a couple of you stop and think about your position on murdering a dumb kid.
That's not true at all. Everyone who read the actual article had corroborating testimony that the police asked the kid to put down the weapon and he did not. Everyone who read the article saw the gun the kid was holding and realized that it was for all intents and purposes indistinguishable from a lethal handgun in that situation. Most of us just read the story and went with the facts that were given.
You are not rational when it comes to cops dude, nnanji is right about that.
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
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Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
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Date Posted:
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sweeny_comodore posted:
30 years ago cops would have just tackled the him rather than have to shoot a kid.
now adays everyone wants to be dirty harry and blast everyone they meet in the face. its no big deal anymore for cops to shoot people, its common place and expected.
This is what I was trying to turn the discussion to before Metalface shot his load of stupid all over the place...
Yeah - I can understand what happened, why it happened, etc etc - case closed.
But seriously in retrospect, why do we accept this, why do we tolerate it, why is this not only acceptable in our society but expected? This says something very disturbing about our society...
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:03am
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Texas police kill 8th-grader carrying pellet gun |
Cawlin posted:
sweeny_comodore posted:
vn_nnanji posted:
sweeny_comodore posted:
i read the pellet gun belonged to a friend of his. it was a xmas gift, or something, and the two were looking at it by their lockers (acting like dumbasses).
when the cops showed up, they hollared at the kid. he turned and said its just a pellet gun then got shot to death.
ORLY?
Feel free to provide a link to where you read this.
You simply are not rational when it comes to cops dude. It really is that simple.
and that was a total troll because nobody had any information about anything other than cops killed a kid for holding a pellet gun in school
apparently it worked because it clearly made a couple of you stop and think about your position on murdering a dumb kid.
That's not true at all. Everyone who read the actual article had corroborating testimony that the police asked the kid to put down the weapon and he did not. Everyone who read the article saw the gun the kid was holding and realized that it was for all intents and purposes indistinguishable from a lethal handgun in that situation. Most of us just read the story and went with the facts that were given.
You are not rational when it comes to cops dude, nnanji is right about that.
make up whatever excuses you want to justify your blood lust.
the original article gave no indications of the kids attitude with the gun, how long was waited between telling him to drop it and shooting, what lead up to the incident.
the only thing the original article said was a kid in the hall with a gun that turned out to be a pellet gun.
are you also in agreement that death for this kid was the ONLY answer and a beanbag/tazer should not even have been bothered to be tried first?
should cops just ditch their arsenal of nonlethal weapons or keep them around for use on criples, retards, and old women in place of a slap in the face?
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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Texas police kill 8th-grader carrying pellet gun |
reesescups posted:
sweeny_comodore posted:
30 years ago cops would have just tackled the him rather than have to shoot a kid.
now adays everyone wants to be dirty harry and blast everyone they meet in the face. its no big deal anymore for cops to shoot people, its common place and expected.
This is what I was trying to turn the discussion to before Metalface shot his load of stupid all over the place...
Yeah - I can understand what happened, why it happened, etc etc - case closed.
But seriously in retrospect, why do we accept this, why do we tolerate it, why is this not only acceptable in our society but expected? This says something very disturbing about our society...
A metal detector that students pass through would have likely alleviated this situation. That tactic is being employed in a lot of schools nowadays. There's also the zero tolerance policy that has schools expelling kids who bite their pizza into an "L" shape and hold the crust like a gun...
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
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Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
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Date Posted:
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Texas police kill 8th-grader carrying pellet gun |
Cawlin posted:
reesescups posted:
sweeny_comodore posted:
30 years ago cops would have just tackled the him rather than have to shoot a kid.
now adays everyone wants to be dirty harry and blast everyone they meet in the face. its no big deal anymore for cops to shoot people, its common place and expected.
This is what I was trying to turn the discussion to before Metalface shot his load of stupid all over the place...
Yeah - I can understand what happened, why it happened, etc etc - case closed.
But seriously in retrospect, why do we accept this, why do we tolerate it, why is this not only acceptable in our society but expected? This says something very disturbing about our society...
A metal detector that students pass through would have likely alleviated this situation. That tactic is being employed in a lot of schools nowadays. There's also the zero tolerance policy that has schools expelling kids who bite their pizza into an "L" shape and hold the crust like a gun...
Good points - but I was more referring about how our police react...
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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sweeny_comodore posted:
Cawlin posted:
sweeny_comodore posted:
and that was a total troll because nobody had any information about anything other than cops killed a kid for holding a pellet gun in school
apparently it worked because it clearly made a couple of you stop and think about your position on murdering a dumb kid.
That's not true at all. Everyone who read the actual article had corroborating testimony that the police asked the kid to put down the weapon and he did not. Everyone who read the article saw the gun the kid was holding and realized that it was for all intents and purposes indistinguishable from a lethal handgun in that situation. Most of us just read the story and went with the facts that were given.
You are not rational when it comes to cops dude, nnanji is right about that.
make up whatever excuses you want to justify your blood lust.
the original article gave no indications of the kids attitude with the gun, how long was waited between telling him to drop it and shooting, what lead up to the incident.
the only thing the original article said was a kid in the hall with a gun that turned out to be a pellet gun.
are you also in agreement that death for this kid was the ONLY answer and a beanbag/tazer should not even have been bothered to be tried first?
should cops just ditch their arsenal of nonlethal weapons or keep them around for use on criples, retards, and old women in place of a slap in the face?
Lol you're either trolling again or have gone off the deep end here. In either case, it's not worth trying to make you understand. You hate cops, we all get it. You think that all cops are murdering jack-booted thugs, we all get it. Bottom line though is that the kid pointed a gun at cops, was ordered to drop it, didn't, and was shot because of it. In truth, the kid got a great deal more leeway than an adult in a similar situation would have gotten.
If you get pulled over by a cop for a traffic stop and get out of your car holding a gun, the cop isn't going to wait for you to point it at him and then try to talk you down, nor should he.
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Date Posted:
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reesescups posted:
sweeny_comodore posted:
30 years ago cops would have just tackled the him rather than have to shoot a kid.
now adays everyone wants to be dirty harry and blast everyone they meet in the face. its no big deal anymore for cops to shoot people, its common place and expected.
This is what I was trying to turn the discussion to before Metalface shot his load of stupid all over the place...
Yeah - I can understand what happened, why it happened, etc etc - case closed.
But seriously in retrospect, why do we accept this, why do we tolerate it, why is this not only acceptable in our society but expected? This says something very disturbing about our society...
weve becoem an emotional society thats spoon fed fear by politicians and media to push extreme ideas and agendas.
it works because everyone assumes it wont happen to me, or it doesnt matter to me because i have nothing to hide anyway.
everything i see in this thread is "OHNOEZ! KEEL HEEM FAST BEFORE MY KID GETS HURT!"
what if that was your kid?
do you think yould rather the cops have used beanbags and tazers before blasting his face off?
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