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Cawlin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
paulg_68 posted:

Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

paulg_68 posted:

My car knows whether or not I'm wearing a seatbelt. It knows if my passengers are too.

It wouldn't be hard for insurance companies to track who does and who doesn't. I can look at my gas mileage info online right now because my car uploads it. It could easily upload seatbelt usage info as well.





lol, you'd trade one minor intrusion for a huge one... but hey as long as its a corporation doing it, no problem, right?


If you don't like the intrusion then just pay full price for your insurance. Why would I fear having some insurance company learn that I always wear my seatbelt? I'm not sure how that's a "huge" intrusion. It's information I want them to have because it will earn me a discount.





It won't be long before they have this information anyway. I suspect within the next 20 years, no new vehicles will be produced withouth On-Star type chips in them that function as locators and "black boxes" for all manner of things, including time traveled without a seatbelt on and so forth. This will be an issue that is forced by insurance companies and will be required as a condition of coverage. Initially this will be mandated under the auspices of helping insurance companies to help recoup losses on stolen vehicles, but of course it will wind up being used to track and disable vehicles at the whim of law enforcement.

 

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Sea_of_inK  2 stars
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Registered: 2004-10-18 12:57:37
There have been many situations where a car with multiple people in it only has 1 unbelted individual inside and their flailing body has killed and injured the others. It cannot be done safely, like drunk driving. If you want to use public roads obey public law. Don't want to wear a seatbelt? walk.

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
By that thinking you shouldn't be allowed to carry groceries in your car since a flying can of soup could kill someone.

 

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Sea_of_inK  2 stars
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Registered: 2004-10-18 12:57:37
That is ridiculous.

Wearing your seat belt is not. That's why it's the law. Driving is a privilege, don't forget it.

 

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Aerlinthian  4 stars
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According to the big government support group everything related to travel is a privilege. Maybe they should read the constitution sometime before the TSA is on their local sidewalk screening passers by.
paulg_68  4 stars
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Sea_of_inK posted:

That is ridiculous.

Wearing your seat belt is not. That's why it's the law. Driving is a privilege, don't forget it.


I bet you're more likely to get killed by something you're carrying in your car hitting you during an accident than being killed by a flying body. In fact I bet the odds are about 100 times more likely that you get killed by cargo than passengers.

Which is more ridiculous, creating a law to save people from one thing and then ignoring something else 100 times more likely to kill them?

We probably shouldn't let people drive at all. We could cut deaths by car accident a lot if we didn't allow people to drive.

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
not wearing a seat belt should not be a punishable offense.
it is only a "crime" because they wanted to give cops an excuse to pull over and interrogate any person at any time.


they should also require citizens to wear helmets around skyscrapers.
you know how many people are killed by falling debris from skyscrapers every year?


the government should not be dictating personal safety equipment for citizens in every day life

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Aerlinthian posted:

Yukishiro1 posted:

How? How does an insurance company give people discounts for using seatbelts? They can start charging you more after you're in an accident without a seatbelt but that is a pretty poor incentive because the damage has likely already been done and the sort of moron who doesn't wear a seatbelt clearly isn't thinking ahead in the first place.

Accident investigations always determine seat belt status.



Way to not read to the end of the quote.

People don't wear seatbelts because they are idiots who can't think ahead. They are not going to start wearing seatbelts over the fear that their insurance premiums might go up AFTER an accident. If they were that sort of person they would be wearing a seatbelt in the first place.

What kind of a moron says "oh, just my life? nah, not wearing a seatbelt. BUT MY INSURANCE PREMIUMS MIGHT GO UP? OMG TIME TO BELT UP!"
sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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Yukishiro1 posted:

Aerlinthian posted:

Yukishiro1 posted:

How? How does an insurance company give people discounts for using seatbelts? They can start charging you more after you're in an accident without a seatbelt but that is a pretty poor incentive because the damage has likely already been done and the sort of moron who doesn't wear a seatbelt clearly isn't thinking ahead in the first place.

Accident investigations always determine seat belt status.



Way to not read to the end of the quote.

People don't wear seatbelts because they are idiots who can't think ahead. They are not going to start wearing seatbelts over the fear that their insurance premiums might go up AFTER an accident. If they were that sort of person they would be wearing a seatbelt in the first place.

What kind of a moron says "oh, just my life? nah, not wearing a seatbelt. BUT MY INSURANCE PREMIUMS MIGHT GO UP? OMG TIME TO BELT UP!"



people who dont wear hard hats are idiots who cant think ahead. they havent considered that a chunk of ice might fall off an airplane and land on them or that a skyscraper window might fall out...
people whould always wear a hard hat
and steel toe boots.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Uh, to make the analogy complete, it would be that if you didn't wear a hard hat and then you got hurt because of it you'd have to pay an extra 5 bucks.

"Meh, just my brains at stake? I'll take teh risk. BUT MY BRAINS AND FIVE DOLLARS? HAT ME UP!"


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