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Sin_of_Onin  Posts: 1,307
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Well you are entitled to your confussion buttercup. Is that a big enough endorsement of individualism for you?
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Groucho48  Posts: 821
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reesescups posted:
AzureTyger posted:
The combined intellectual weight of a thousand Ayn Rands could not balance the scale with Marx.
I could tip the scale against Marx's fat ass with one easy reference.
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
That works much better as an argument against Ayn Rand than it does as an argument against Marx. Her whole philosophy revolved around her contention that all men were NOT created equal.
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
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SoO posted:
Marx embraced individualism right up to the point of where he has to acknowledge and account for an individual...
Dur Dur - you are dumb!
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Rand was right about one thing. All men are NOT created equal.
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
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Groucho48 posted:
reesescups posted:
AzureTyger posted:
The combined intellectual weight of a thousand Ayn Rands could not balance the scale with Marx.
I could tip the scale against Marx's fat ass with one easy reference.
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
That works much better as an argument against Ayn Rand than it does as an argument against Marx. Her whole philosophy revolved around her contention that all men were NOT created equal.
Not surprising but I don't think you understand our Declaration of Independence.
It doesn't stand against Rand's beliefs, it is an expression of them. All men having equal access to life, liberty and the pursuit of Happyness, doesn't mean that all people are in fact 100% equal in ability.
HTH
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
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reesescups posted:
SoO posted:
Marx embraced individualism right up to the point of where he has to acknowledge and account for an individual...
Dur Dur - you are dumb!
There is no doubt that Marx failed to accurately predict the motivations of people. That hardly means he did not embrace the notion of individual liberty.
What a stupid attempt at logic you just made.
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
What a stupid attempt at logic I just made.
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
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OK demonstrate logically how failing to predict the actions of individuals means one does not embrace ideas of Independence.
I could never predict just how stupid you are but I still embrace the Decleration.
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
OK demonstrate logically how failing to predict the actions of individuals means one does not embrace ideas of Independence.
Do you know anything about Marx? What motivated him, his process of thought? He was anti Hegel, Hegelites picked on Marx for his stupidity and Marx got butthurt and took his ball and went home and in his bitterness tried to create a system that did away with individuals.
He didn't accept individualism at all. It's not that he forgot to include individualism into his theory, it's that he wanted to do away with individualism all together.
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
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reesescups posted:
Sin_of_Onin posted:
OK demonstrate logically how failing to predict the actions of individuals means one does not embrace ideas of Independence.
Do you know anything about Marx? What motivated him, his process of thought? He was anti Hegel, Hegelites picked on Marx for his stupidity and Marx got butthurt and took his ball and went home and in his bitterness tried to create a system that did away with individuals.
He didn't accept individualism at all. It's not that he forgot to include individualism into his theory, it's that he wanted to do away with individualism all together.
So you are equating Independence to Individualism to Hegel.
Yeah...
If your only point is that Marx is not a libertarian I agree. If you want to say he is against the Decleration of Indpendence and notions of the importance of the individual you are confused.
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