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Groucho48  3 stars
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These examples will suffice. What do they prove? The apathy of the privileged constituencies. And this apathy, what proves it? That they have outlived themselves — that they have lost every interest in their own political existence. This is in no wise apathy against politics in general, but against a species of politics, the result of which, for the most part, can only consist in helping the Tories to oust the Whigs, or the Whigs to conquer the Tories. The constituencies feel instinctively that the decision lies no longer either with Parliament, or with the making of Parliament. Who repealed the Corn Laws? Assuredly not the voters who had elected a Protectionist Parliament, still less the Protectionist Parliament itself, but only and exclusively the pressure from without. In this pressure from without, in other means of influencing Parliament than by voting, a great portion even of electors now believe. They consider the hitherto lawful mode of voting as an antiquated formality, but from the moment Parliament should make front against the pressure from without, and dictate laws to the nation in the sense of its narrow constituencies, they would join the general assault against the whole antiquated system of machinery.

The bribery and intimidation practised by the Tories were, then, merely violent experiments for bringing back to life dying electoral bodies which have become incapable of production, and which can no longer create decisive electoral results and really national Parliaments. And the result? The old Parliament was dissolved, because at the end of its career it had dissolved into sections which brought each other to a complete stand-still. The new Parliament begins where the old one ended; it is paralytic from the hour of its birth.

 

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Tych2  4 stars
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A hero of yours?

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Marx's work was very important in labor economics and understanding history.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Karl Marx had amazing insights about SOME aspects of humanity and human nature. He had pathetically little understanding of other aspects of it or was willfully ignorant about it.

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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He tried to invent a completely new economy and system of government.

Ironically in the end it seems that he will be proven more right than wrong, simply way way way ahead of his time.

 

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Modeeb  4 stars
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Ill bet there are very few here who have studied Marx. He is one of the most profound thinkers of the ages.


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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Sin_of_Onin posted:

Marx's work was very important in labor economics and understanding history.



Yeah. Nobody but idiots denies this. He was a titantic intellectual and historical figure.
__Bonk__  5 stars
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He is a prophet of doom. Millions suffered and died because of his ideas

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Many have suffered due to tyrants who sold themselves as followers of Marx but were nothing of the sort.

Many have benefited due to his work and his ideas.

 

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There is only one way to kill capitalism...by taxes, taxes and more taxes.

- Karl Marx

 

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