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Modeeb  Title: A Ghost In The Machine
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Registered: 2002-4-19 10:48:36
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
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Cawlin posted:
Any other recourse you might take against them physically or by taking possession against his will of any of his other belongings or property is illegal.
I agreed from the start that it was illegal.
No need to beat that dead horse.
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vn_nnanji Title: Outpost Music Expert
Posts: 1,964
Registered: 2001-6-30 17:22:56
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Reaching into someone's wallet without permission is stealing.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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vn_nnanji posted:
Reaching into someone's wallet without permission is stealing.
Yep. Unless maybe they just stole some money from you and then put it in their wallet. 
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Clackdor  Posts: 163
Registered: 2001-9-21 12:10:52
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Paul plays both sides against the middle worse than anybody I know.
Confront him. Tell him you know how much he has in his wallet and ask for yours back.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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paulg_68 posted:
Cawlin posted:
Any other recourse you might take against them physically or by taking possession against his will of any of his other belongings or property is illegal.
I agreed from the start that it was illegal.
No need to beat that dead horse.
So you don't see the moral obligation to obey the law under this circumstance?
By disobeying the law you establish a VERY clear slippery slope for the kind of behavior which is the primary reason for the law in the first place.
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
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Cawlin posted:
So you don't see the moral obligation to obey the law under this circumstance?
There is no moral obligation to obey the law unless you granted the lawmakers the authority to make the laws.
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Ptilk Title: Creepy old pirate
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Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
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I wouldn't have lent him the 50 in the first place.
I would have given it to him.
If he somehow managed to owe me 50 bucks, I wouldn't ever expect it back, care if I got it back, or thought about it again.
I would have also punched the asshole that was going thru his wallet.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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paulg_68 posted:
Cawlin posted:
So you don't see the moral obligation to obey the law under this circumstance?
There is no moral obligation to obey the law unless you granted the lawmakers the authority to make the laws.
That's called a social contract and it is bespoke, or assumed.
When you get down to it, law is only a subjective discrimination based on what a (presumably) majority of people agree is "right".
Granted in some cases it gets very grey and fuzzy, but this is not such a case and to be honest, it's a little simplistic to argue that because SOME laws are grey, all are - this is not an "in for a penny, in for a pound" argument.
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
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Cawlin posted:
paulg_68 posted:
Cawlin posted:
So you don't see the moral obligation to obey the law under this circumstance?
There is no moral obligation to obey the law unless you granted the lawmakers the authority to make the laws.
That's called a social contract and it is bespoke, or assumed.
I just made a law that you owe me $100. I'll PM you my paypal info.
Cawlin posted:
When you get down to it, law is only a subjective discrimination based on what a (presumably) majority of people agree is "right".
Granted in some cases it gets very grey and fuzzy, but this is not such a case and to be honest, it's a little simplistic to argue that because SOME laws are grey, all are - this is not an "in for a penny, in for a pound" argument.
The guy has $50 that is yours and you take it. That doesn't even qualify as fuzzy?
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