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Author Topic: What Motivates Climate Change Deniers? [Locked]
sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
Scarne posted:

Jaedence posted:

How was your winter last year? Because VT is warm this year and bitter cold last year.
We have zero snow on the ground and last year we had record snowfall.

Let me guess... both years were caused by man-made global warming?


It is possible, yes.

Adding more energy into a chaotic system can end up creating more chaos with extreme swings between highs and lows.



it can also end up smoothing out chaotic swings....

i guess the other idea fits your agenda better though, so feel free to keep using it

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
sweeny_comodore posted:

it can also end up smoothing out chaotic swings....



uh no. more energy into a system does not smooth things out.
Scarne  4 stars
Title: Capo di Scientifico
Posts: 1,087
Registered: 2001-7-23 15:24:34
Yukishiro1 posted:

sweeny_comodore posted:

it can also end up smoothing out chaotic swings....



uh no. more energy into a system does not smooth things out.


It can, but I doubt such an environment would be friendly to human life.

Look at Jupiter. Lots of energy in the atmosphere and there is a stable red spot storm.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
I didn't say high energy systems can't be stable SKONK.
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I trust SKONK more on scientific manners than you YUKI

 

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Bobvillas  3 stars
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Registered: 2008-11-19 12:56:18
I think most people believe in it.

I think the break down comes from people that believe specific portions of our government are using it as an agenda.

Feeling manipulated based off of climate change makes them push back. ie. I will NOT buy those light bulbs. FREEEEEEDOM!!

Often times it seems to be pushed further then they might actually believe just to make sure the line is drawn in the sand.

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
Posts: 1,216
Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
Yukishiro1 posted:

I didn't say high energy systems can't be stable SKONK.



stable energy systems will increase predictably with an addition of more energy.
the climate and weather are not stable. they are chaotic patterns.
adding more energy is just as likely to smooth it out as it is to make it more chaotic.
if the outcome was predictable then it wouldnt be chaotic.


and yes, a 3 cyl engine running at 500rpm is rough as all get out. increase the enrgy to 1500rpm and its smooth as silk.

adding energy can smooth things out just as much as it can disrupt a system.
in a stable system the outcome is predictable. in a chaotic one, the outcome is not predictable and, more often then not, random.

 

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