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reesescups  4 stars
Title: //Captain America
Posts: 2,537
Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
I know there are still a few of you that are in denial... What say you, what are your motivations?


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Bill McKibben, a dauntless advocate for action on climate change, wrote a powerful op-ed piece for The Washington Post on Wednesday called "A link between climate change and Joplin tornadoes? Never!" He lists numerous recent extreme climate events, and intersperses, tongue-in-cheek, the standard retorts of climate-change deniers:

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It is far better to think of these as isolated, unpredictable, discrete events ... It's far smarter to repeat to yourself the comforting mantra that no single weather event can ever be directly tied to climate change. There have been tornadoes before, and floods – that's the important thing.


And he ends with a zinger:

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If worst ever did come to worst, it's reassuring to remember what the U.S. Chamber of Commerce told the Environmental Protection Agency in a recent filing: that there's no need to worry because "populations can acclimatize to warmer climates via a range of behavioral, physiological, and technological adaptations."

I'm pretty sure that's what residents are telling themselves in Joplin today.




The piece already has 11,287 recommendations and 1,281 comments. As happens here at 13.7 when this topic comes up, the comments include a barrage of denials, excoriating Bill as an ignorant rabble-rouser and offering countless URLs of refutation. (N.B. I happen to know Bill McKibben, and he has a mind of steel.) As also happens here, the comments also include a barrage of challenges to the denials and refutations of the URLs.

It all felt like pretty familiar reading.

So here's what I don't get: What motivates a denier? If you are a denier-reader of this blog, what motivates you? I'm not asking for more URLs – we already have plenty of those on file. I'm asking about intent.

 

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/popcorn

 

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Thugoneous  4 stars
Title: Watching Caliente, BRB.
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Registered: 2002-11-2 18:00:54
So weather = climate again?

 

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reesescups  4 stars
Title: //Captain America
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Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
Thugoneous posted:

So, I'm still a moron?

Yes

 

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Thugoneous  4 stars
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reesescups posted:

Durrr

 

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Elocism  3 stars
Title: Pseudonym
Posts: 787
Registered: 2002-5-3 01:50:00
the only thing climate change believers talk aboot is that climate change exists

sounds like church to me

 

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illmyrin  3 stars
Posts: 705
Registered: 2001-12-25 11:52:26
Thugoneous posted:

So weather = climate again?



Yes. As a direct cause and effect. Temperature fuels air flow. Warm air and cool air are at a constant struggle towards a balanced exchange and when one dominates another the potential for unusual and rapid air movements during warming phases can cause extreme weather.

When warm air rises cool air needs to move out of the way.

 

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Phlegm573  3 stars
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Registered: 2002-6-12 17:43:34
reesecups posted:

Topic: What Motivates Climate Change Deniers?



 

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Altra_Shadowstalker  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-17 11:48:15
Greed, Power, Comfort/laziness.
And ignorance, but not on their part, just in a general, human sense.

 

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Blue_arrow  2 stars
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Registered: 2008-7-2 02:02:19
20,000 years ago big ice age

1550 to 1850 Volcanoes caused a "little ice age" four volcanoes went off for a fifty-year period


but man made it warm up and melted all the ice


http://www.c3headlines.com/global-cooling-dataevidencetrends/

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