Prisoners cost the state and everyone of us by way of our taxes, billions. Criminals exploit society and every individual with their actions. At least the prisoners get something for their efforts, where society still pays for them regardless.

 

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It's our obligation as a society to bear the costs of enforcing our laws.

It's not an excuse to permanently strip someone of their right to be a member of society - to permanently cast them as an underclass to be exploited. It's not constitutional and it's also just not ethical.

I'm all for a job training program that gives prisoners a skill they can use when they get out prison. I'm not for exploiting that labor pool for profit.

 

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I agree. I think financial restitution by criminals is a good plan too.





I agree that having a prison record often unfairly keeps an ex-con from rejoining society, but those in favor of knowing if they're going to hire someone who has been convicted of robbery or whatnot, have a point too.





In a lot of cases simply having a routine where they get up in the morning, go to work, follow instructions, don't punch their fkn supervisor, etc. is lacking in the life experience of criminals.

Now I will agree that private enterprise should not be involved with prison labor. Prison labor should be used to perform public works - infrastructure building, providing goods and services to be used by government and/or military (a lot of prison labor is in fact in the manufacture of military equipment). The real problem is the involvement of private enterprise with what would otherwise be a State function - this is of course, an extension of the fascist tendencies of America over the last 60 years or more perhaps. However, none of that has anything to do with the wage prisoners earn.

If it were up to me, prisoners would still earn $0.25/hour as they do now, but it would be ALL "public" work rather than work for private contractors selling siht back to our government...

 

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There should be no financial incentive to keep people imprisoned, you mindless fucks.

what am i supposed to be seeing?

 

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I had to look up the news story on it. One of the cow's spots has been altered by prisoners to look like a pig.

 

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I agree.

I don't agree that having prisoners rehabilitated through prison work programs is a financial incentive to keep them imprisoned. I call that rehabilitation and remuneration.

If prisoners were paid minimum wage for their labor and then billed against that for their housing and upkeep, they'd still owe money, that is just for their lodging and says nothing for the costs to the state of investigation, arrest, prosecution, and handling appeals.

Now, if you want to talk about the war on drugs and how many people are imprisoned as part of that, well I'll agree that the war on drugs is doing nobody any good, but even if you removed all the war on drugs prisoners you'd still be stuck rehabilitating lots of other criminals - and I would agree that such work programs are a pretty decent step towards that in some cases.


Finally, I would argue that if you cannot see prison work programs as anything other than financial incentive to keep people imprisoned, you are the mindless one.

 

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