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Cawlin  4 stars
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regulator_cracka  4 stars
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Saw this on the news this morning, so I cheated, but .


I can not remember how long it took them [to] figure it out.

 

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Taliesihne  4 stars
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A year - it took them a year

Good for the prisoners. Slave labor should get even

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Taliesihne posted:

A year - it took them a year

Good for the prisoners. Slave labor should get even



I thought the slave labor was part of society getting even with the prisoners...

 

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Taliesihne  4 stars
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No, that's what prison is for.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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So you don't think there's rehabilitative value in having a job, learning a trade, learning to lead a productive live?


Recidivism is kind of high (even if you set aside the war on drugs convictions) and one of the reasons for it is that when criminal get out of prison, they don't have a way to earn a living legally. Part of that is because many of them have never experienced having a job, part of it is for other reasons too of course, but having prisoners perform some sort of job or learning a trade while they're in prison seems like a good deal all around to me.

 

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Taliesihne  4 stars
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Cawlin posted:

So you don't think there's rehabilitative value in having a job, learning a trade, learning to lead a productive live?



Sure I do.

Just not at 17 cents an hour or whatever ridiculous rate they get paid

Ps - It's not really a trade if you can't find a job doing it on the outside btw.

 

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Bonzoboy1  3 stars
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Taliesihne posted:

Sure I do.

Just not at 17 cents an hour or whatever ridiculous rate they get paid



You do know that working is the prisoners choice right?

 

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Taliesihne  4 stars
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Bonzoboy1 posted:

You do know that working is the prisoners choice right?



It's a faux choice.

They face huge sanctions for not 'volunteering' for work. Like spending twice as much time in prison even if they are model prisoners.

There's a whole laundry list of sanctions for not 'volunteering' to be slave labor.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Taliesihne posted:

Cawlin posted:

So you don't think there's rehabilitative value in having a job, learning a trade, learning to lead a productive live?



Sure I do.

Just not at 17 cents an hour or whatever ridiculous rate they get paid

Ps - It's not really a trade if you can't find a job doing it on the outside btw.



What does it cost to put the prisoners up in the first place? What does it cost for their medical care, legal representation, and all the other associated expenses that their crimes cost society? Last I heard it costs the state of PA something like $30k a year for a prisoner when all is said and done. The wages they earn are offset by their expense to the state. Further, it probably still costs the state money to have job rehab programs in prisons even if they paid the inmates nothing at all.

Now, obviously making soap or whatnot is probably not a very marketable skill outside the big house, but getting up and getting to work on time, performing your duties per instructions are skills that many inmates don't have at all.

 

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