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Tych2  4 stars
Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
Posts: 2,511
Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
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Taliesihne  4 stars
Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
Posts: 1,117
Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
Tbh, I'm not so sure how I feel about making inmates pay for the own costs of their imprisonment. I'm split on it.

My big problem isn't the deduction - it's the unfair wages before the deduction.

Prison laborers should be paid at least minimum wage.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
Taliesihne posted:

Tbh, I'm not so sure how I feel about making inmates pay for the own costs of their imprisonment. I'm split on it.

My big problem isn't the deduction - it's the unfair wages before the deduction.

Prison laborers should be paid at least minimum wage, just like everyone else is required to do.



Not everyone is required to be paid a minimum wage, and I'm not talking about undocumented Democrats either.

 

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Bonzoboy1  3 stars
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Registered: 2008-8-1 18:04:29
Taliesihne posted:

Bonzoboy1 posted:

You do know that working is the prisoners choice right?



It's a faux choice.

They face huge sanctions for not 'volunteering' for work. Like spending twice as much time in prison even if they are model prisoners.

There's a whole laundry list of sanctions for not 'volunteering' to be slave labor.



That is pure BS, they have more prisoners than jobs. The two main reasons prisoners agree to work is no money on their books and the fact that if you don't work you sit and do nothing all day every day.

 

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NuEM  4 stars
Posts: 1,007
Registered: 2004-3-2 09:08:11
I don't get it.

 

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Taliesihne  4 stars
Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
Posts: 1,117
Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
And earlier parole.

And access to the prison amenties.

Etc., etc.

None of that stuff should depend on whether or not you volunteer to be exploited.

 

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Moe_Nox  4 stars
Title: In Moe We Trust
Posts: 1,962
Registered: 2007-2-4 12:17:56
Taliesihne posted:

Prison laborers should be paid at least minimum wage.


While it might be a good troll topic in theory, no one here truly believes you are this stupid.

 

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Taliesihne  4 stars
Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
Posts: 1,117
Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
I believe that an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

I also believe in rehabilitation and think disenfranchisement is unconstitutional.

I also believe we have an ethical responsibility to act better the the prisoners we intern.

You can't really rehabilitate someone by actively exploiting them.

Prison labor is big business - folks are making millions by exploiting people. I'm not ok with this.

 

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Tych2  4 stars
Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
Posts: 2,511
Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
It doesn't matter what you pay them. You make sure its whatever you pay them that is what it costs to "rehabilitate" them. So they get nothing for their crime.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
Taliesihne posted:

And earlier parole.

And access to the prison amentieis.

Etc., etc.

None of that stuff should depend on whether or not you volunteer to be exploited.



I think your view of prison and prisoners is somewhat skewed.

I have two close friends who are corrections officers.

My father was a parole officer for over 30 years.

These folks tell a very different story than the one you're telling Tali.

 

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