it's to bad the AA crowd is mostly just people who wanna go arglebargle anytime someone says something about their freebee program, otherwise we could actually make it into something that helps EVERYONE who needs help.

 

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Actually..this isnt about white.

This stemmed from a story where an Asian kid with perfect SAT scores didn't get into Harvard due to them meeting thier quota and needed other races for diversity. UT @ Austin does this all the time and the Texas Supreme COurt actually upheld it.

City of Austin recently had to lower thier standards for testing in the Police and Fire Academy for lack of qualifying applicants that weren't white or hispanic.

Why do we, as a nation, need to lower our standards to let ANYONE take a certain job/attend a certain college based upon race?

 

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The canned response you will get is that the kid apparently didn't do enough on extracurriculars but that's patently BS, as student investigation teams made up of non-Asians have consistently found bias at whatever top schools they're able to investigate.

 

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Harvard doesn't use quotas, nor does any other university in the country.


No one is ever forced to hire an unqualified person because of their skin color.


Basically you're just wrong about everything. I suspect you're being fed a bunch of crap by some right-wing website that is distorting reality.

They don't use quotas but they have other policies in place that essentially serve the same function

 

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Yes and no.


Basically how much AA programs at both universities and employers work these days is they look at qualified applicants for the job and if there are two qualified applicants and one is part of some underrepresented demographic that one tends to get the nod. Harvard is not accepting unqualified students in order to boost its minority numbers. Harvard gets 10x as many academically qualified applicants as it can take so it has to decide on things other than just academic qualification.


P.S. Having perfect SAT scores has never been and should not be a ticket to any school you want. SAT scores are one piece of an application and probably not even the most important piece.

I suppose that's somewhat true - it's a problem that a lot of East Asians are just overqualified for Harvard, I guess. Either that or they lowered their standards too much.

 

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The kid in Kamdar's story almost certainly got into at least 5 other top colleges. I think there are better people to feel sorry for if we want to feel sorry about people getting screwed by society.

That is complete semantic bullshit.

Your argument is that, since they are all 'qualified', you can pick whomever you want and tell yourself that you aren't discriminating. It doesn't matter if you discriminate against Whites and Asians in favor of Blacks and Hispanics with lower scores.

Colleges pick lesser-qualified applicants because they fit into an under-represented demographic over better qualified students of over-represented demographics. That is the very definition of racial discrimination. This hits Asians much harder than anyone else.

Go look at median test scores of admitted students by race. You'll find there is 300+ point differences between Asian and Black students (with Whites and Hispanics in the middle)

Yeah, but those black kids that got into Harvard in his place could have gotten admitted into 5 other good schools too.

 

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