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Groucho48  Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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Obama would be screaming for photo ID if... |
So, we have suppositions of how people could illegally vote. Still no examples of it happening in more than a scattering of places over the years.
Same thing when Indiana claimed to simply HAD to mandate picture IDs to prevent fraud but then couldn't point to any examples of that kind of voter fraud actually happening.
All you guys know how to do is repeat right wing talking points ad nauseum with no way to back up what you are saying.
WE NEED PICTURE IDs TO PREVENT FRAUD!!!
Can you point to any examples of voter fraud over the last 20-30 years that made any kind of impact and which picture IDs would have prevented?
LIBERALS!!!!
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IMHO  Title: Official Outpost Greeter
Posts: 2,287
Registered: 2001-11-1 03:55:02
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Yukishiro1 posted:
That isn't really correct. You can vote just showing a utility bill but your name has to be on the list. If it isn't you can register and vote on the same day but typically the votes are tallied seperately.
I don't even know how to rebut you sometimes.
Let's try this.... What does it take to get "on the list"?
..or more to the point, should you have to be an American to vote in elections in America?
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IMHO Title: Official Outpost Greeter
Posts: 2,287
Registered: 2001-11-1 03:55:02
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
Obama would be screaming for photo ID if... |
Groucho48 posted:
So, we have suppositions of how people could illegally vote. Still no examples of it happening in more than a scattering of places over the years.
Same thing when Indiana claimed to simply HAD to mandate picture IDs to prevent fraud but then couldn't point to any examples of that kind of voter fraud actually happening.
All you guys know how to do is repeat right wing talking points ad nauseum with no way to back up what you are saying.
WE NEED PICTURE IDs TO PREVENT FRAUD!!!
Can you point to any examples of voter fraud over the last 20-30 years that made any kind of impact and which picture IDs would have prevented?
LIBERALS!!!!
Should voting for an American President be only allowed by Americans?
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many of you are in the Republican boat, aka the ship of fools. ~Modeeb
We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different. ~Kurt Vonnegut
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
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Obama would be screaming for photo ID if... |
Groucho48 posted:
So, we have suppositions of how people could illegally vote. Still no examples of it happening in more than a scattering of places over the years.
The reason we need the IDs is because this is hard to catch. You are surprised that we haven't caught a lot of people doing something where the problem is that they are hard to catch?
If you think about it for a minute, you may find the error in your logic.
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Groucho48 Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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Date Posted:
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Obama would be screaming for photo ID if... |
IMHO posted:
Yukishiro1 posted:
That isn't really correct. You can vote just showing a utility bill but your name has to be on the list. If it isn't you can register and vote on the same day but typically the votes are tallied seperately.
I don't even know how to rebut you sometimes.
Let's try this.... What does it take to get "on the list"?
..or more to the point, should you have to be an American to vote in elections in America?
It's been a long time, but, I believe I registered to vote with a driver's license and a proof of address thing. Maybe a utility bill. I don't think I needed a birth certificate, but, it was 40-odd years ago.
If folks are on the registration rolls that aren't supposed to be, well, then, picture IDs wouldn't help.
Meanwhile, the Bush Administration conducted an intense search for voter fraud. A couple of attorneys-general were replaced because they weren't going after alleged voter fraud cases as diligently as ideologues in the DoJ thought they should be.
So, what did several years of intense investigation turn up? 17 isolated cases.
http://www.truthaboutfraud.org/pdf/doj%20election%20fraud%20prosecutions.pdf
This is a solution in search of a problem.
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
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Because they're hard to find when people aren't required to show photo ID.
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Groucho48 posted:
This is a solution in search of a problem.
BS, unions, ACORN (now renamed).
Oh and BTW, I am vehemently against computer systems used in voting. Anyone who thinks those are a good idea is an abject ignoramus.
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IMHO Title: Official Outpost Greeter
Posts: 2,287
Registered: 2001-11-1 03:55:02
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Obama would be screaming for photo ID if... |
IMHO posted:
should you have to be an American to vote in elections in America?
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You're Right ~ Koneg
He's [Manegarm] like the Fred Phelps of atheism. ~Bubbledude
many of you are in the Republican boat, aka the ship of fools. ~Modeeb
We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different. ~Kurt Vonnegut
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
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Imagine if we weren't allowed to test people's blood alcohol content when they were suspected of driving drunk. Years would go by and no one would be arrested for drunk driving. Would this constitute proof that no one was driving drunk?
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Is the problem people voting who arn't eligible voting in their own name or people voting in the name of someone else who is eligible who isn't them?
A picture ID might help the latter. I don't see how it'd help the former much.
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