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theredkay1  3 stars
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Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
Aerlinthian posted:

Why does government insist upon licensed drivers, pilots, doctors, lawyers, etc? Why aren't we allowed to take their word for it?



Dr's, pilots and lawyers make more money due to the licensing requirement. The labor market for those professions is improved and customers have an easier time.


The only harm comes to those who are trying to defraud others.


Voting on the other hand.....there is no market participant improvement. Voters dont get a better deal or have an easier time....candidates dont have an improved election process or have an easier time in office.


Raising the difficulty of voting will harm those who cant afford (money or time) to get the required materials.....and the benefits are very unclear since nobody can seem to show any harm being done currently.


With your examples there is a large improvement in each particular market. With voting, it seems like you just make voting less likely for poor people and those with transportation problems.


Improving markets is a good reason for regulations. Keeping poor people away from the polls doesnt quite measure up.
Cawlin  4 stars
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paulg_68 posted:

People should be allowed to vote a million times each with no checks on anything. This is better than inadvertently inconveniencing one civil war era democrat who doesn't have ID. -- Libtards





Actually what I think is that one guy in a given neighborhood, town, or voting district should just be allowed to vote for everyone in his neighborhood, town, or voting district, as long as all those people say it's OK for him to cast their vote for them, the way they would do it themselves if they could just work up the energy to get to the polls. In fact, that guy should go to the polls and just say he's all the names in his voting district so that they all get checked off. There should be no reason to check his identity because, you know, everyone said he could cast their votes for them!

 

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Aerlinthian  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-5-7 23:53:38
theredkay1 posted:

Voting on the other hand.....there is no market participant improvement.

Except for the little fact that people have been promised by unscrupulous douche bags that a vote for them will result in money taken from others for the group that votes for them.
Groucho48  3 stars
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Still waiting on examples of significant voter fraud that could have been prevented by picture IDs.

 

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Bjorvald  2 stars
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Not sure what significance has to do with anything. One person voting illegally is a big deal.

 

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IMHO  4 stars
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Groucho48 posted:

Still waiting on examples of significant voter fraud that could have been prevented by picture IDs.


What do you mean by voter fraud?

I would consider any illegals voting to be considered voter fraud.

Would You?

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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Groucho48 posted:

Still waiting on examples of significant voter fraud that could have been prevented by picture IDs.


Suppose some guy wants to vote for his brother who he knows doesn't ever vote. He doesn't have a picture ID with his brother's name on it. He decides not to do it.

Do you need another one?

 

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paulg_68 posted:

Groucho48 posted:

Still waiting on examples of significant voter fraud that could have been prevented by picture IDs.


Suppose some guy wants to vote for his brother who he knows doesn't ever vote. He doesn't have a picture ID with his brother's name on it. He decides not to do it.

Do you need another one?





Every one in this country illegally only has to show a utilities bill in their name to register to vote.

That Would be upwards of 30 million cases of voter fraud.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
That isn't really correct. You can vote just showing a utility bill but your name has to be on the list. If it isn't you can register and vote on the same day but typically the votes are tallied seperately.
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Yukishiro1 posted:

That isn't really correct. You can vote just showing a utility bill but your name has to be on the list. If it isn't you can register and vote on the same day but typically the votes are tallied seperately.



 

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