No, but you'd have to be mentally incompetent to the point of drooling on yourself to not see how cultural diversity presents certain hurdles that a more culturally homogenous population doesn't have to contend with.

 

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All of those "hurdles" are much more difficult to overcome in a capitalist system bent on "free trade" than socialist ones bent on subsidizing production and employment.

 

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You mean like the hurdles where one cultural demographic reviles everything about education and achievement and actively discourages portions of its own demographic from seeking any sort of advancement in the world of "The Othersâ„¢"?

How about the hurdle where one cultural demographic actively works to separate itself, socially, economically, and physically from "The Othersâ„¢"

 

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The US has to deal with the fact that it has been overtly rascist for so long and continues to be extremely classist. Both issues are only made worse in our current economic system and approach.

 

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Well okay but we have right wings too here just not as many.

 

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The fact is that there are huge cultural "gaps" within the US and there are pretty stark lines drawn between the various demographics espousing the various cultures. The US is sort of a melding pot, but in actual practice is more of a collection of groups of people, not willing to give up their distrust/hate for the other groups. The economic drivers behind these aren't so much about class (the class warfare issue is evolving to the point that it is no longer being waged along cultural/racial lines).

The question is a chicken or the egg issue really though. Are the economics race based or is the racism economically based? The fact is that there are cultural striations in America and there is huge contention over them which impede progress.

Speaking about the nations above, all basically Germanic in origin, largely of the same race and similar religious background and comparing it to America would be like comparing a half a dozen STATES in the US. Perhaps if you compared Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri, and Kentucky you could see some parity. I'm pretty sure all of those states are about as similarly diverse as Germany, Norway, Austria, Denmark, Holland, Sweden and Finland. Now, throw into the mix New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts, California, Texas, and Florida, and you're talking about REAL cultural diversity.





You aren't very familiar with the various demographics in the US.

 

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I reject the notion that cultural diversity is the problem or something dragging the US down.


I do agree that a history of racism and classism is problematic though. Our history of racism and bias has helped tie culture and race to class. The end result is a situation where our history with regards to race is unable to heal because of our problems with classism.


The problem is not cultural diversity, it is our own history and our current choices that are the problem.

 

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I did not say it was "the" problem. I said that it was one of the difficulties facing the US along with things like population, geographic spread and so forth. Cultural diversity in the US is a hurdle that we must get over, along with a number of other hurdles. It ALSO is a boon in some regards. It is possible for it to be both you know. Discounting it entirely as having no bearing on anything is either naive or intentionally disingenuous.

 

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What a stupid semantic argument you just made.


/boggle


Calling cultural diversity a hurdle misses the point. The nation has benefited a lot from cultural diversity and when you attempt to describe problems of cultural diversity they amount to little more than complaints about past mistakes made in our country and how those mistakes still haunt US. In part due to classism that is present in this nation. Classism being one of the primary issues these "socialist" states address.


At best your "hurdle" is really just a reason to be more like those countries, not an excuse for why we can't.


I find your take on American history and your understanding of why these European system work to be lacking.

 

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LOL talk about a semantics argument!

So it's not cultural diversity, it's class diversity brought about by economic conditions that may be based in race or by racial divisions that may be brought about by economics?

GTFO dude.

Your pie in the sky, rose colored glasses perspective is the party line of course, but it's not reality. Reality is that cultural diversity can be problematic (and can also be a boon) when it comes to uniting a nation. I am not making excuses for the lack of cohesion, I'm simply explaining to you the truth of the matter.

People are not machines. People have emotions and sometimes irrational fears and concerns. That's just the way people are, people EVERYWHERE are this way, not just in the US, but around the globe. Cultural diversity has the potential to provide a net benefit overall to the nation, but such benefit is presently being hindered by this universal human trait which is to be wary of that which is different.

 

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