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Darkblade_The_Great  1 star
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Registered: 2000-8-10 09:20:33
Manegarm posted:

Aerlinthian posted:

Next to socialists.



Sweden is a well functioning socialist state without any real poverty, low crime, high educational level, extremely high living standard, one of the lowest infant mortality rates in the world and universal healthcare, the 4th best internet coverage in the world.

America is a non functioning capitalist state; a lot of poverty, high crime rates, the highest infant mortality rate in the western world no universal coverage and your internet prowess is laughable..

questions?



Just out of curiosity, how many immigrants are allowed into Sweden each year legally? How many undocumented immigrants come into Sweden each year on top of the ones legally allowed in? Out of those immigrants what percentage would you say have no skills, no education, no money at all,and can not speak the common language? And then out of those immigrants mentioned above that are able to find work end up pay little if any taxes, and then send a large percentage of the money they make to another country to support their extremely poor family or to help fund their families transport to your country thus removing even more money from your economy?

Just wondering.


And how many times do we have to go over the infant mortality rate and the differences in how those numbers are reported that make that number not mean very much. If the stat was reported and tracked in the same way you would have an argument.

And grats on being able to download pr0n slightly faster than us. My 20mb service at the house seems to work ok and so does my 4g phone.

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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4g phone is FAR less than 20meg

your 20meg is probably far less than 20meg.


picture a pipe thats 100 feet across flowing at 2 gallons per minute. its really kind of a trickle, right?
no picture a tiny little tube flowing at 2 gallons per minute. if the tube is small enough, 2 gallons/min rushed out fast enough to cut bone in half.


if youre on cable internet, you have the previous one. and they have no desire to provide you with a a much fatter/faster internet for so much less cost than DSL/fios is doing.
why should they? capitalism is alive and well. we reward those who can withhold tech and charge more for crapier products

 

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Darkblade_The_Great  1 star
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sweeny_comodore posted:

4g phone is FAR less than 20meg

your 20meg is probably far less than 20meg.


picture a pipe thats 100 feet across flowing at 2 gallons per minute. its really kind of a trickle, right?
no picture a tiny little tube flowing at 2 gallons per minute. if the tube is small enough, 2 gallons/min rushed out fast enough to cut bone in half.


if youre on cable internet, you have the previous one. and they have no desire to provide you with a a much fatter/faster internet for so much less cost than DSL/fios is doing.
why should they? capitalism is alive and well. we reward those who can withhold tech and charge more for crapier products



Thank you for the series of pipes and tubes internet lesson. I never said my phone was 20mb service and I have Fios and not cable. I also understand how bandwidth works and that I don't always get exactly what the service says. I did mention that it is working just fine and downloads, streams, and surfs faster than I really need it to. I have yet to need to download pr0n, watch 4 streaming HD movies, and play wow while surfing the web all at the same time. So while I guess 100+mb service would be cool I probably don't really need it.

 

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eodoll  4 stars
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Apple is still breaking new ground.. Ipad and iphone. Nobody else did anything like it until apple.
GrilledCheez  4 stars
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eodoll posted:

Apple is still breaking new ground.. Ipad and iphone. Nobody else did anything like it until apple.



 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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To be fair, in 1984, most of the non-Apple world was computing like this:

C:\cd d:<enter>
D:\cd games<enter>
D:\cd lemmings<enter>
D:\run lemmings.exe<enter>

 

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RHWarrior  3 stars
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Cawlin posted:

To be fair, in 1984, most of the non-Apple world was computing like this:

C:\cd d:<enter>
D:\cd games<enter>
D:\cd lemmings<enter>
D:\run lemmings.exe<enter>



Nah, I'd slam my Lemmings disk into my Amiga 500 and it would autoboot the game.

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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In 1984 Apple was way ahead of the game in terms of usability and they still are today. The only real question is whether they will lose ground like they did in the 80's and 90's.

 

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Eithne_Boadicea  1 star
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Manegarm posted:

Aerlinthian posted:

And again for the willfully ignorant. Our two nations are nothing alike in terms of demographics. Your insistence on not recognizing that fact is why you always fail miserably on your attempt at this analogy.

Maybe, just maybe if you came over here for a few years and did extensive traveling and extensive dialoging with the highly disparate and diverse groups here, you would realize this for yourself. I have traveled this country extensively, I have spent a lot of time talking with different peoples and it is completely safe to say that we have very different ethics and values from area to area and groups to groups which makes large scale socialism impossible.

Socialism needs affinity to work. America is far too large and diverse to have the kind of affinities needed for a socialist state. In addition our form of government is not built for it. That is why we are coming apart at the seems now. The models we have had forced on us do not work for a nation that is built like us, large as us and diverse as we are.

But I know you will ignore this because you think you are more knowledgeable, smarter and experienced than everyone else. How do I know this? Because I have seen you repeatedly insist that your system which works for your country can work for other countries. You're not just wrong, but you are arrogantly wrong.



Germany, Norway, Austria, Denmark, Holland, Sweden and Finland disagrees with you.

fact: Socialism works fine if it's free from corruption and not mismanaged.

Which makes me right I do believe..



Because those countries you listed have the geographical area, diversity, population, etc. comparable to the US more so than Sweden? Try again.

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Eithne_Boadicea posted:

Because those countries you listed have the geographical area, diversity, population, etc. comparable to the US more so than Sweden? Try again.



So now diversity is some horrible thing that is dragging the US down?


 

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