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Yukishiro1  Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Pay Raise expected for Government Employees |
Sin_of_Onin posted:
Yukishiro1 posted:
For the last two years federal employees haven't been able to get raises whether or not they "earn" them. HTH.
In CT people have continued to get promoted but with no pay.
It depends on the agency for the feds. DOL is not quite so strict but for the DOJ for instance I think even if you switch jobs completely they won't pay you any more. So you have people going from being janitors to paralegals and not getting paid any more even though the entry salary rate for the second job is like 5k higher than the former job.
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Lyken-P  Posts: 453
Registered: 2006-1-14 18:41:19
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
Lyken-P posted:
"Expected" is a word you hear from 99% of the people today. "Earn" is no long in their vocabulary. (this goes for Private and Public Sectors)
Congress determines what they get. Obama had the change as part of his proposed budget.
You are an idiot.
HTH
Congress and Obama is great at understanding the difference between expected and earned. 
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Rikarus Title: Ultimate Badass
Posts: 267
Registered: 2002-2-24 12:24:32
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I am a fed employee, I have 27 years in service counting my miltiary time, I am no where near being able to retire, by the time I can retire I will be at least 56.5 and have 38.5 years of service, my retirement is a crap annuity, a 401k, and IF I am lucky, SS. I haven't seen shit for a raise in years, and assure you I work my ass off. yaay FERS.
Even back under CSRS, nobody retired with 20 unless they were retired military, and then double dipped at some other gov job.
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SoBaKi Posts: 487
Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Lyken-P posted:
Sin_of_Onin posted:
Lyken-P posted:
"Expected" is a word you hear from 99% of the people today. "Earn" is no long in their vocabulary. (this goes for Private and Public Sectors)
Congress determines what they get. Obama had the change as part of his proposed budget.
You are an idiot.
HTH
Congress and Obama is great at understanding the difference between expected and earned.
I'm sure you'll not be surprised to know you're exactly the sort of constituent the current crop of reptard presidential candidates are catering to.
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"Decimation" simply means a reduction of 10%.
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Lyken-P Posts: 453
Registered: 2006-1-14 18:41:19
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SoBaKi posted:
I'm sure you'll not be surprised to know you're exactly the sort of constituent the current crop of reptard presidential candidates are catering to.
You have no clue the type of constituent I am and you never will.
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theredkay1  Posts: 611
Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
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The conservative war on government wages (and really this is part of the conservative war on all wages) is actually an interesting topic. I dont see alot of analysis beyond taking a number out of a study/report and spinning a story around it to fit your preconceived conclusion.
Labor is a market....there is supply and there is demand and they will drive the price.
Conservatives in this debate like to pretend supply doesnt exist and the only thing driving the price is socialist Obama's desire to hire federal workers at any price.
But supply always matters. If you need work done and people dont really like doing that kind of work, you need to offer higher wages. Higher wages are a result of supply constraints. An easy example is an 'entry level' military job. You dont make much money but you make alot more than you would at other entry level jobs with similar education requirements.
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
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1/1/00 12:00am
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theredkay1 posted:
Public sector employees purchase all their goods at private sector businesses. They buy private sector homes. They buy private sector cars and eat at private sector restaurants.
Which private sector businessmen think the key to their success is poorer customers? Bankruptcy attorneys maybe?
Reducing a group of customers income is not the private sector stimulus you think it is. Its hard to figure out how you get from A to B on this one. Looks like you have a desire to punish a certain group of people and you are willing to damage the private sector economy to do so. Dumbz
You are essentially making the shovels are better than tractors argument. If it's valid then spoons must be better than shovels right?
If we're better off having the government overpay on wages by 25% then wouldn't we be even better off if they overpaid by 100%? Or still better at 500%?
theredkay1 posted:
Labor is a market....there is supply and there is demand and they will drive the price.
The government pays above market wages for many jobs. They could pay less and still get the jobs done but they choose to pay more.
It skews the market for everyone else and hurts private businesses.
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
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The labor market sucks, I don't think that making it worse for labor is a great idea.
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
The labor market sucks, I don't think that making it worse for labor is a great idea.
Let's pay them all to have children and guarantee that the next generation faces an even greater oversupply problem.
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