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When you have an annual trillion dollar deficit and are working your way to 16 trillion in debt, this is all a great big farce.
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Yukishiro1  Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Apparently a 0.5% raise every 3 years is too much to ask for as a public employee. You start at X salary and stay at that same salary until the day you retire! Orsomethe.
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Bobvillas  Posts: 643
Registered: 2008-11-19 12:56:18
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There is currently ~ 1 government civilian worker (federal, state and local) for every six households.
We had a trend line of declining federal civilian headcounts til the late 1990's.
Resuming that trend would imply a 15% reduction over 5 years and ~$300 billion over the next ten years.
We could also focus on local private company outsourcing, where state and local governments are finding real productivity gains.
Pretty speculative but I like the less is more mantra.
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
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If salary X is already too high then how fast should it increase?
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Eradiani Title: Moderator/ EvEVault Staff
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I'm against it only because on average public sector already makes way more than private sector employees
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
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Eradiani posted:
I'm against it only because on average public sector already makes way more than private sector employees
This is stupid and not particularly true.
Some kinds of public employees make way more than equivalent jobs in the private sector. Generally unskilled or low skilled labor.
Other kinds of public employees make way less than the private sector equivalents. Professionals, for example.
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ZigmundZag Title: Grammar Nazi
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Registered: 2002-3-25 23:03:00
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_Gronk_ posted:
There was a time when the public sector traded lower pay (compared to the private sector) for a lifelong pension (retirement benefits) after 20 years.
You know, this is a pretty broad brush that conservatives always love to paint with, yet most civil service jobs (GS level work and post office comes to mind) have paid at a pretty good scale for as long as I can remember.
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ZigmundZag Title: Grammar Nazi
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Registered: 2002-3-25 23:03:00
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Bobvillas posted:
There is currently ~ 1 government civilian worker (federal, state and local) for every six households.
We had a trend line of declining federal civilian headcounts til the late 1990's.
Resuming that trend would imply a 15% reduction over 5 years and ~$300 billion over the next ten years.
We could also focus on local private company outsourcing, where state and local governments are finding real productivity gains.
Pretty speculative but I like the less is more mantra.
That trend has been continuing ever since the start of the recession/housing slump. In fact public sector declines are the biggest reason we've had so many negative employment reports over the past two years...the private sector was making small gains while the public sector was letting quite a few people go.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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A huge wave of retirements is starting in the public sector. Payroll will naturally go down anyway as higher paid retirees leave the system to be replaced with new hires. Freezing the pay of the new hires is not a very fair way to deal with the federal wage bill.
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
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What the government should really be focusing on is reworking pensions and health. The government is exposed to a lot of risk between the dependence on capital markets for revenue and the fact that their pension funds and retiree health funds are exposed to risk.
Not to mention all of the services the government provides that increase during a recession. Budgeting based on one year's revenue makes no sense, especially when the government entity's revenue is dependent on the income tax.
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