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Abaddon_Ambrosius  4 stars
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DemonicXH posted:

Christians believe Jesus to be the Son of God and their Messiah.

Not God.

Good try though.



Catholics believe in one God, in three Persons... father, son, and holy ghost. The Trinity. You may have heard of it? It's gotten a little press the last, oh, two thousand years or so.

Unless, of course, again, by some odd country club exclusivity definition Catholics are not "Christian"...

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
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DemonicXH posted:

Ashmaele posted:

DemonicXH posted:

It's an Abrahamic religion, just like Judaism and Islam. They all believe in the same God and are monotheistic.

Except that christians are not monotheistic, unless you do not consider Jesus to be anything more than human.



Christians believe Jesus to be the Son of God and their Messiah.

So Jesus was just a regular dude? Or is he divine? What about the angels? What about Satan? When Christian pastors and priest say stuff like, "God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit" are they just kidding?

 

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_Enkidu_  2 stars
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More craziness ensues as religion debates whether 3=1 or 3=3.

 

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ZigmundZag  4 stars
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The Council of Nicea was pretty specific about that, weren't they? Three beings all made of the same stuff or something like that?

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
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Abaddon_Ambrosius  4 stars
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_Enkidu_ posted:

More craziness ensues as religion debates whether 3=1 or 3=3.



As I said, I find the whole thing irrelevant.

I just love holding up the mirror, however. Can't resist.

 

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DemonicXH  3 stars
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:

DemonicXH posted:

Christians believe Jesus to be the Son of God and their Messiah.

Not God.

Good try though.



Catholics believe in one God, in three Persons... father, son, and holy ghost. The Trinity. You may have heard of it? It's gotten a little press the last, oh, two thousand years or so.

Unless, of course, again, by some odd country club exclusivity definition Catholics are not "Christian"...



I know all about the trinity, I was raised Catholic. I was taught aka force-fed all about the Holy Trinity. Not once was there mention that Jesus = God.

Just because he is worshiped and praised and all that hoopla that doesn't mean he is god. That's why he is called the messiah.


Thanks for your pretentious response though, maybe I should post the definition of what God is.
DemonicXH  3 stars
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Ashmaele posted:

So Jesus was just a regular dude? Or is he divine? What about the angels? What about Satan? When Christian pastors and priest say stuff like, "God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit" are they just kidding?



Really?


Another one who maybe needs to look up the definition of God.
Abaddon_Ambrosius  4 stars
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DemonicXH posted:

I know all about the trinity, I was raised Catholic. I was taught aka force-fed all about the Holy Trinity. Not once was there mention that Jesus = God.



Then you weren't really raised Catholic, because that is THE fundamental mystery of the faith. 3 Beings. One God.

I was raised Catholic. I think I ran across that for the first of about 1,500 times when I was six. Maybe seven. And I moved around to about 12 churches and heard it in each and every single one, so...

 

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DemonicXH  3 stars
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:

DemonicXH posted:

I know all about the trinity, I was raised Catholic. I was taught aka force-fed all about the Holy Trinity. Not once was there mention that Jesus = God.



Then you weren't really raised Catholic, because that is THE fundamental mystery of the faith. 3 Beings. One God.

I was raised Catholic. I think I ran across that for the first of about 1,500 times when I was six. Maybe seven. And I moved around to about 12 churches and heard it in each and every single one, so...



Thanks for proving my point even further.


ONE god, hence monotheistic.

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