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Sin_of_Onin  Posts: 1,307
Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
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Taliesihne posted:
Sin_of_Onin posted:
How is this not all on the medical side? The idea of drug tests where you have to submit information from one doctor to the next sounds insane.
We have to pay a fee for not getting check ups too.
What do you mean by 'medical side'?
With our company at least, you go to a independent screening company, they take the urinalysis, if there are issues HR is contacted and told that the screening company needs to talk to the person under 'test'. The person under test has to provide the prescribing doctors name and a release to talk about the medical condition that necessitates the prescription to the independent company. The testing company then contacts the doctor and confirms they prescribed it and why.
The way the company handbook is written, the medications they could be looking for is huge. The intent is that they are looking for codeine and benzo abusers, but with the language in our handbook - mood altering drugs, MAO inhibitors, SSRI's, muscle relaxers, etc. are all realistically on the table as well.
It's hugely invasive. Bear in mind I sit at a computer desk all day as well - I never operate company vehicles or heavy machinery.
Why would HR ever be contacted? They seem to be mixing prevenative medicine initiatives (that are good IMO) with drug screening.
I have no problem peeing in a cup to give my doctor information about my health. The idea that my doctor would then call my HR department is ridiculous. The plans that have people pay less if they get regular check ups is great and I hope it works. It is a vastly different issue than the drug tests you are talking about.
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Scarne Title: Capo di Scientifico
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Registered: 2001-7-23 15:24:34
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illmyrin posted:
I don't understand what's crazy about that statement.. Healthcare became a mandate. Healthcare providers can do whatever they want now. Including black list you from employment in any company they do business with because of your risk assessment..
Government interfered in a free market system that required providers to sell themselves where now they get to pick and choose because WE HAVE TO USE THEM.
This stuff was well on the way of being implemented before ObamaCare was passed. 
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theredkay1  Posts: 611
Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
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Creating incentives for these kinds of regular checkups/tests is a good idea. Good for your health, good for everyones pocketbook.
The problem is will your employer fire you if they figure out you are an unhealthy drain on company resources. Im surprised this isnt a HIPAA violation....it seems to violate the spirit of that law.
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Date Posted:
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There seems to be a difference between a plan that encourages participation with bonuses vs. a plan that penalizes non-participation with fines. I am also not a fan of dealing with random drug screenings and medical evaluations. If companies want to have them, that's cool - I'll work somewhere else.
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
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Eager_Igraine posted:
There seems to be a difference between a plan that encourages participation with bonuses vs. a plan that penalizes non-participation with fines. I am also not a fan of dealing with random drug screenings and medical evaluations. If companies want to have them, that's cool - I'll work somewhere else.
The ones I have seen tend to have a penalty/reward of around 100 to 150 a year based on going to a regular check up (which is determined based on your age). The idea of punishing every possible thing seems stupid.
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eodoll Posts: 1,028
Registered: 2002-2-14 12:35:42
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We have that too but what they give you is some flex spending cash for healthcare.
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Taliesihne Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
Why would HR ever be contacted? They seem to be mixing prevenative medicine initiatives (that are good IMO) with drug screening.
I'm not sure why. Just know that's the way it is.
Sin_of_Onin posted:
I have no problem peeing in a cup to give my doctor information about my health. The idea that my doctor would then call my HR department is ridiculous. The plans that have people pay less if they get regular check ups is great and I hope it works. It is a vastly different issue than the drug tests you are talking about.
I don't really have a problem with it either.
But peeing in the cup of my Company's doctor and sharing the information with them - different issue.
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Nestor_II  Title: I Would Walk 500 Miles
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Registered: 2002-1-31 07:03:29
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Look at the screening this way, You work for a company and have no health problems, then along comes this screening and they find out that You have cancer. Well Your bosses will know and seeing this as hit to their already high insurance bill, decide to either fire you or make you quit so they don't have to pay. And we all know what happens when the company insurance has to pay out a large claim, they pay it and drop the employer from their rolls.
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
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The idea that a company has to worry about the health of their employees because it will mean higher insurance costs is mad. They have to worry about investing in an employee that is sick but it shouldn't change their insurance costs.
Our entire system is broken.
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Elkad  Title: aka Ebenezer
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Registered: 2003-9-11 22:20:55
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Date Posted:
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The government won't let employers charge different premiums to different employees based on health/age. So of course they are trying to screen employees. Ones that cost extra will find themselves filing discrimination lawsuits in a few years, after getting passed up for promotions, laid off first, etc..
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