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Taliesihne  Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
Posts: 1,117
Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
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Biometric Screening - welcome to the future |
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SoBaKi  Posts: 487
Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
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Cawlin posted:
SoBaKi posted:
Aerlinthian posted:
An outcome of government interference into the market place.
You're seriously retarded if you don't think that this is a profit/loss issue for an insurance company.
Yeah, insurance companies are clearly hurting... their profit/loss situation is rather dire I'm sure.
JFC, if an insurance company can increase their profit through the use of biometric screenings, don't you believe they would implement such a policy?
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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Date Posted:
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SoBaKi posted:
Cawlin posted:
SoBaKi posted:
You're seriously retarded if you don't think that this is a profit/loss issue for an insurance company.
Yeah, insurance companies are clearly hurting... their profit/loss situation is rather dire I'm sure.
JFC, if an insurance company can increase their profit through the use of biometric screenings, don't you believe they would implement such a policy?
What if they could increase their profit through requiring you to submit grocery receipts and with random stops at your home during meal time to make sure you're eating properly and not too much... in fact, maybe the government should get involved and make sure that grocery stores don't sell obese people too much food, there probably should be a voucher program or something for fatties, and people with other dietary issues... after all... it would increase insurance profits if they could just make sure we all lived their definition of a healthy lifestyle.
You are the kind of person I am talking about in this thread.
Just fkn think about it for a minute dude. The insurance company is also blackmailing people for an extra $1040/year for not submitting to the screening, meanwhile of course they're probably going to jack up the rates on everyone the screen too eventually - once they've weeded out all the non-compliant ones. Think about it. Where do you want to draw the line.
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Sansfear  Posts: 757
Registered: 2008-8-31 05:04:52
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Date Posted:
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Don't blame the insurance company, blame the employer.
The insurance company offered the employer a discount if they did this, and the employer agreed to it.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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Sansfear posted:
Don't blame the insurance company, blame the employer.
The insurance company offered the employer a discount if they did this, and the employer agreed to it.
Both parties are to blame.
The insurance company is extorting the company who is in turn extorting their employees. Typical "trickle down" model. Who do you think has a bigger lobby in Washington: Tali's company or the insurance company?
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
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Date Posted:
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How is this not all on the medical side? The idea of drug tests where you have to submit information from one doctor to the next sounds insane.
We have to pay a fee for not getting check ups too.
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SoBaKi Posts: 487
Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
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Date Posted:
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Cawlin posted:
What if they could increase their profit through requiring you to submit grocery receipts and with random stops at your home during meal time to make sure you're eating properly and not too much... in fact, maybe the government should get involved and make sure that grocery stores don't sell obese people too much food, there probably should be a voucher program or something for fatties, and people with other dietary issues... after all... it would increase insurance profits if they could just make sure we all lived their definition of a healthy lifestyle.
You are the kind of person I am talking about in this thread.
Just fkn think about it for a minute dude. The insurance company is also blackmailing people for an extra $1040/year for not submitting to the screening, meanwhile of course they're probably going to jack up the rates on everyone the screen too eventually - once they've weeded out all the non-compliant ones. Think about it. Where do you want to draw the line.
First, know that I'm not supprting this action, but I can think it through to understand WHY they're doing this action. Second, why are you making the leap (bolded) between corporation and government when we're discussing the reasoning behind an insurance company's decision to try and implement biometrics screening? This is a simple profit/loss decision by the insurance company. If they do this sort of preventive screening, they lower their costs and increase their profit. Why/how the Government was drawn into the discussion is boggling.
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Bobvillas Posts: 643
Registered: 2008-11-19 12:56:18
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Date Posted:
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My company does something similar.
It is not forced but they do give decent incentives.
If my wife and I both fill out the survey online we get $50 a piece.
If we continue with the program and set up a health regimen we each get another $75.
If we allow a nurse to give us a call and talk to us about the regimen we get another $75.
$400 for ~an hour of my time on the computer and a phone call.
They then raffle off x amount of ipad2 for completing the program.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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Date Posted:
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SoBaKi posted:
Cawlin posted:
What if they could increase their profit through requiring you to submit grocery receipts and with random stops at your home during meal time to make sure you're eating properly and not too much... in fact, maybe the government should get involved and make sure that grocery stores don't sell obese people too much food, there probably should be a voucher program or something for fatties, and people with other dietary issues... after all... it would increase insurance profits if they could just make sure we all lived their definition of a healthy lifestyle.
You are the kind of person I am talking about in this thread.
Just fkn think about it for a minute dude. The insurance company is also blackmailing people for an extra $1040/year for not submitting to the screening, meanwhile of course they're probably going to jack up the rates on everyone the screen too eventually - once they've weeded out all the non-compliant ones. Think about it. Where do you want to draw the line.
First, know that I'm not supprting this action, but I can think it through to understand WHY they're doing this action. Second, why are you making the leap (bolded) between corporation and government when we're discussing the reasoning behind an insurance company's decision to try and implement biometrics screening? This is a simple profit/loss decision by the insurance company. If they do this sort of preventive screening, they lower their costs and increase their profit. Why/how the Government was drawn into the discussion is boggling.
The point is that it's extortionate and intrusive. The government is supposed to be "the law" that we rely on to protect us from this. The government is not, in fact the government is encouraging it. That's the issue and that's why this is terrible.
I can understand why the insurance company is doing this, but it doesn't make it right and it CERTAINLY doesn't make it necessary for the insurance company's survival - if the insurer is in that bad of a financial situation, it's not because they have a few fatties covered, it's because they're grossly mismanaging their guaranteed gold-mine business.
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SoBaKi Posts: 487
Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
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Date Posted:
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Subject:
Biometric Screening - welcome to the future |
Cawlin posted:
SoBaKi posted:
Cawlin posted:
What if they could increase their profit through requiring you to submit grocery receipts and with random stops at your home during meal time to make sure you're eating properly and not too much... in fact, maybe the government should get involved and make sure that grocery stores don't sell obese people too much food, there probably should be a voucher program or something for fatties, and people with other dietary issues... after all... it would increase insurance profits if they could just make sure we all lived their definition of a healthy lifestyle.
You are the kind of person I am talking about in this thread.
Just fkn think about it for a minute dude. The insurance company is also blackmailing people for an extra $1040/year for not submitting to the screening, meanwhile of course they're probably going to jack up the rates on everyone the screen too eventually - once they've weeded out all the non-compliant ones. Think about it. Where do you want to draw the line.
First, know that I'm not supprting this action, but I can think it through to understand WHY they're doing this action. Second, why are you making the leap (bolded) between corporation and government when we're discussing the reasoning behind an insurance company's decision to try and implement biometrics screening? This is a simple profit/loss decision by the insurance company. If they do this sort of preventive screening, they lower their costs and increase their profit. Why/how the Government was drawn into the discussion is boggling.
The point is that it's extortionate and intrusive. The government is supposed to be "the law" that we rely on to protect us from this. The government is not, in fact the government is encouraging it. That's the issue and that's why this is terrible.
I can understand why the insurance company is doing this, but it doesn't make it right and it CERTAINLY doesn't make it necessary for the insurance company's survival - if the insurer is in that bad of a financial situation, it's not because they have a few fatties covered, it's because they're grossly mismanaging their guaranteed gold-mine business.
Didn't you also just create a thread railing against government intervention? Couldn't the answer be to find another employer who doesn't support this sort of thing?
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