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Moe_Nox  Title: In Moe We Trust
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Registered: 2007-2-4 12:17:56
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Why do we nitpick on abortion? |
Manegarm posted:
You're the idiot claiming to know the emotional and physical pain of abortion.. I never made such claims.
I have the same rights as her to my child when it's born, until then she makes the rules.. It's simple logic she is taking all the responsibility, the pain, the risks and the discomfort you're standing on the side line crying about your little rights being trampled on, oh how dares she! Not letting you impose your will upon her without having to share the risks, the pain and the discomfort it's so unfair.
You claimed that a paternity test would be unfairly invasive. I asked if it would be any more invasive than having the actual abortion.
If you take that as me claiming to know what pain an abortion causes, your english sucks.
You don't want the man to impose any will on the woman, but you are fine with the woman imposing any will she wants on the fetus.
If you don't believe its a human, fine. You'd be wrong, but fine, its still a living thing.
If you support any rights at all for pets, animals, etc that give more rights to those living things than you do to a human fetus, you have been morally brainwashed.
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Moe_Nox Title: In Moe We Trust
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1/1/00 12:01am
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Why do we nitpick on abortion? |
Tych is one of the smarter people on the board on these issues; He is smart enough to stay out of the cess pool.
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Manegarm Title: European Imperialist Good Guy
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Registered: 2003-8-11 10:01:52
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Date Posted:
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Why do we nitpick on abortion? |
Moe_Nox posted:
You claimed that a paternity test would be unfairly invasive. I asked if it would be any more invasive than having the actual abortion.
If you take that as me claiming to know what pain an abortion causes, your english sucks.
Moe_nox posted:
As far as testing for paternity, why not? How is this process more traumatic physically or emotionally for a woman than the actual abortion procedure?
You don't want the man to impose any will on the woman, but you are fine with the woman imposing any will she wants on the fetus.
If you don't believe its a human, fine. You'd be wrong, but fine, its still a living thing.
If you support any rights at all for pets, animals, etc that give more rights to those living things than you do to a human fetus, you have been morally brainwashed.
It's like talking with a bag of rocks.. You're equating doing something unpleasant out of your own free will with being forced to a invasive medical procedure while either detained or drugged, no matter the modus operandi it's still forced. The main issue here is forcing a woman to do this test of yours not the procedure itself.
So what will we do instead? If you have sex with a woman you will have to accept her choices for the fetus it's not your body neither is the sperm since you released it from your body into hers, possession is 9/10's of the law I hear.
I have zero issues with abortion, as far as I'm concerned it's a parasite with the potential to become a human.. I'd rather see a wanted, loved child come to the world then a child growing up without the benefits of love and the material backup needed to become a productive member of society. I have zero interest in having to pay for crack-babies and huge poor families whose future is either crime, drugs and or poverty.. I mean having a lot of poverty seem to work out awesome in America.
Well then it's a good thing that a majority of civilized people agree with me and not with you and the rest of unwashed religious fanatics of the world.
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Manegarm Title: European Imperialist Good Guy
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Why do we nitpick on abortion? |
Tych2 posted:
Manegarm posted:
Tych2 posted:
Man there is a reason why I avoid talking about this topic with people I like.
You seem afraid to discuss any subject that is more controversial then the weather with folks you like.
Well of course you are going to assume that. Either black or white with you. There are a lot of subjects I talk about with people I care about. Ones that are debatable. Abortion and religion aren't two of them. I am not going to change my stances on either of them. They all know my stances on both subjects. No need to beat people I like over the head with it.
I finally got you annoyed   
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
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1/1/00 12:01am
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Why do we nitpick on abortion? |
heh hardly Manegarm.
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SoBaKi  Posts: 487
Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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Why do we nitpick on abortion? |
Moe_Nox posted:
Then set the record straight Sobaki. When do you think is the latest week abortions should be permitted?
First trimester, tops. if you've not been able to make a decision by then, have the kid.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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Why do we nitpick on abortion? |
Abortion is like gun control - it's never really off the agenda.
For the Right, abortion will always be a target of opportunity, just like for the Left, gun control is always a target of opportunity.
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Manegarm Title: European Imperialist Good Guy
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Tych2 posted:
heh hardly Manegarm.
The exasperated tone in your post says otherwise!
aaaaaw coomeeeeere!
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
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Date Posted:
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 ok capt'
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Groucho48  Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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Why do we nitpick on abortion? |
I believe as long as the fetus is inside a woman's body, her right to control her body trumps whatever rights a fetus may have. The Supreme Court doesn't agree with me and, as I have no problem with compromise in principle, I will accept the Supreme Court decision. It sounds like a reasonable compromise to me.
It is anti-abortion folks who pushed through a bunch of laws such as killing a pregnant woman is a double homicide. They want to nibble and nibble and nibble and nibble away at a woman's right to choose so they have passed hundreds, if not thousands, of petty little laws and regulations whose only purpose to to make to tougher to get an abortion and to promote the idea that a fetus has all the rights and privileges of a human being.
If the women in a couple gets pregnant, the man should have input, but, as long as it is her body, she gets to break any tie votes. Just as if the discussion was about getting a vasectomy, the guy gets to decide a tie vote.
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