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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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paulg_68 posted:

There's a school lunch inspector?


Good lord.


I'm sure that same school district threatens to cut their music program every time their budget comes up.






I hope it is just a lunch lady.

 

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Rosaria  2 stars
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Registered: 2003-8-22 10:07:30

I know multiple Amish farms in the Maryland/DC region that sell raw milk which is now labelled "For Animal Use". I'm pretty sure they don't check the license plates of their customers before selling it.

 

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ZigmundZag  4 stars
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Sin_of_Onin posted:

I hope it is just a lunch lady.

If that. It's probably a daycare TA who received a pamphlet six months ago about how to inspect lunches and was since decreed a "State Inspector". The story sounds much more ominous to Fox readers if they make it sounds like the state has employees in every preschool lunchroom, though.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
ZigmundZag posted:

Sin_of_Onin posted:

I hope it is just a lunch lady.

If that. It's probably a daycare TA who received a pamphlet six months ago about how to inspect lunches and was since decreed a "State Inspector". The story sounds much more ominous to Fox readers if they make it sounds like the state has employees in every preschool lunchroom, though.
Jaedence  1 star
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Registered: 2009-2-27 02:17:13
What amazes me most about this is the tea-party and their ilk campaign for smaller government, but they're the same people who want to regulate who you marry, what you smoke, how much you drink, what you watch.

PS, violence is okay, but don't you dare show a breast...
Moe_Nox  4 stars
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You mean like the Hillary/Tipper Gore campaign of censorship during the 90's? Yeah, you see confused.

 

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Abaddon_Ambrosius  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-21 09:51:39
Jaedence posted:

What amazes me most about this is the tea-party and their ilk campaign for smaller government, but they're the same people who want to regulate who you marry, what you smoke, how much you drink, what you watch.

PS, violence is okay, but don't you dare show a breast...



That would not be my ilk. Small government and personal responsibility do not have to go hand in hand with prudish asininity.

And you can show your tits any time, now...

<taps watch impatiently>

 

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Groucho48  3 stars
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Cawlin posted:

This is a problem that goes to the fundamental issue of intrusive government programs. The incompetence of the administrators of such programs as well as their corruption is legendary. This particular story is just another in a long list of decades worth of evidence to this truth. To consider the entirety of the issue a single day's action by an incompetent inspector is the height of foolishness when considering the issue of expanding government and government programs.



So, if I can find one incompetent or corrupt businessman that would prove that capitalism is wrong?

If I can find one pervert priest that would prove that religion is wrong?

As has been pointed out in this thread several times, this was an easily correctable stupid moment.

How many school meals are handled every day? Millions. How many times have you been to a restaurant or fast food place and they get your order wrong? Happens all the time.

If this is all you anti-big government folks have to whine about, you guys are screwed.

 

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Groucho48  3 stars
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Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
So, I looked around a bit, and found...surprise, surprise!...that the story of this atrocity is full of distortions and omissions.


Quote:

For starters, the context in which all of this occurred was a public school pre-K program run by the state popularly known as “More at Four,” but now called the generic name “NC Pre-K.” In order to have a child enrolled in this program, which has a limited number of slots, the parents must actively choose to enroll, with priority going to “at-risk” children, to wit: special needs children and (importantly) low-income children. Indeed, to even be eligible for the program, the child must either fit in one of those two categories or have a parent on (or about to be called on) active military duty. Enrollment as an “at-risk” child means that the child’s enrollment is fully subsidized by the state, regardless of whether the day care is private or public.
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The original story’s claim that the relevant regulation applies to all pre-schools is also false – to the contrary, it applies only to pre-schools choosing to participate in (and eligible for) the subsidized program.

The original story further obscures that in no circumstance was this child – or any child, for that matter – being forced to eat the school-provided lunch, nor was this child -or any other child – deprived of her boxed lunch. Instead, as the second linked story acknowledges, the child was just provided with additional food and given the option to consume that in addition to her boxed lunch. In other words, the claim that the school “replaced” this girl’s turkey sandwich, banana, apple, potato chips, and juice with chicken nuggets is totally bogus.
By and large, what this story boils down to is that a low-income child whose tuition is fully subsidized by the state under a program her mother opted into was offered some additional food to supplement the boxed lunch she brought from home. This option was provided not because of some overarching, generally applicable law or regulation, but because the program in which her mother and school voluntarily participate requires such an option be available. The mother apparently objects to this option being provided to her daughter, not because of any health concerns or the like, but because she incorrectly believes that she will be charged additional money for her child being provided this option. Since she won’t in fact be charged for this and there is no evidence she was ever going to be charged for it, there is absolutely no harm actually being done to her or her child.

Since this is also an opt-in program, there is no chance of this becoming some sort of generally applicable concern even to the extent there is some sort of nanny state concern here. If the mother has some sort of ethical problem with her child being provided with the option of drinking milk or eating vegetables at school, then she is surely free to send her child to an unsubsidized day care program.



http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/blog/2012/02/15/a-north-carolina-non-troversy/


tl;dr...typical right wing demonizing of what sounds like a program to help poor kids.

 

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theredkay1  3 stars
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Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
Sounds like maoist china or stalin era Russa to me.


Everybody get your guns....they are feeding poor children!

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