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Cawlin  4 stars
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Sin_of_Onin posted:

Cawlin posted:

Most of government (in terms of dollars spent) is hidden, certainly. However, the trend is for bigger, more intrusive government and by virtue of that, more programs overseen by asstards like this USDA inspector in the article.

Discourse is good because it gives people a chance to really see what happens when they let government programs like this intrude into these intimate details of their lives. People can see the ineptitude and incompetence that is inevitable and reach the logical conclusion that such programs as this are absurd, abusive, intrusive, intolerable, and utterly unacceptable.



We are talking about kids eating in a government run building. There is no doubt that they have a responsibility at that point. It is not really a question of having standards or not but what those standards are, how they are enforced, and once a problem is identified how they are solving the problem.

Schools are also known for selling out to soda companies and candy companies to make an extra buck. A major reason school lunches such is because of budgets. Most of these issues tend to come back to money.



I am not arguing against schools making sure kids have a solid lunch. Nor am I arguing against subsidized lunches. School lunch programs are a morass of corruption though, and that's not even a part of the issue in this thread imo.

I'm arguing that the people who execute these government programs are jackoffs and idiots and that their presence is inevitable and frankly ubiquitous. People who are in favor of these sort of carte blanche policies need to be reminded of the idiots who they are giving all this authority to.

I see nothing wrong with this program implemented in a way such as that suggested by AA above in the thread. However, I'm imagining this inspector looking something like Balbricker from Porky's, rooting through kids' lunches, stealing the candy bars to stuff her fat face with, opening the sandwich bags, and grubbing the bread apart with her fat, wrinkly fingers to make sure that the lunchmeat is "good enough" and that there isn't too much fkn mayo...

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Sounds like the whole issue can be resolved by having the school provide a fruit of choice to all students.

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Cawlin posted:

I am not arguing against schools making sure kids have a solid lunch. Nor am I arguing against subsidized lunches. School lunch programs are a morass of corruption though, and that's not even a part of the issue in this thread imo.


I'm arguing that the people who execute these government programs are jackoffs and idiots and that their presence is inevitable and frankly ubiquitous. People who are in favor of these sort of carte blanche policies need to be reminded of the idiots who they are giving all this authority to.


I see nothing wrong with this program implemented in a way such as that suggested by AA above in the thread. However, I'm imagining this inspector looking something like Baulbricker from Fast Times at Ridgemont High, rooting through kids' lunches, stealing the candy bars to stuff her fat face with, opening the sandwich bags, and grubbing the bread apart with her fat, wrinkly fingers to make sure that the lunchmeat is "good enough" and that there isn't too much fkn mayo...



You are being obtuse. People screw up with any job. The problem is not that people screw up it is that they are not held accountable. This person is clearly being called out on their incompetence.


You are being a lil emo bitch IMO.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Sin_of_Onin posted:

Cawlin posted:

I am not arguing against schools making sure kids have a solid lunch. Nor am I arguing against subsidized lunches. School lunch programs are a morass of corruption though, and that's not even a part of the issue in this thread imo.

I'm arguing that the people who execute these government programs are jackoffs and idiots and that their presence is inevitable and frankly ubiquitous. People who are in favor of these sort of carte blanche policies need to be reminded of the idiots who they are giving all this authority to.

I see nothing wrong with this program implemented in a way such as that suggested by AA above in the thread. However, I'm imagining this inspector looking something like Baulbricker from Fast Times at Ridgemont High, rooting through kids' lunches, stealing the candy bars to stuff her fat face with, opening the sandwich bags, and grubbing the bread apart with her fat, wrinkly fingers to make sure that the lunchmeat is "good enough" and that there isn't too much fkn mayo...



You are being obtuse. People screw up with any job. The problem is not that people screw up it is that they are not held accountable. This person is clearly being called out on their incompetence.

You are being a lil emo bitch IMO.



LOL

You are putting your head in the sand and ignoring the truth of the matter - which is that big intrusive government needs people to execute their programs - many of those people WANT to do this because they desire to have power over other people and such programs and positions give them an opportunity to have it. Who the fk else would want to be a lunch inspector at a fkn preschool hmm?

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Cawlin posted:

LOL


You are putting your head in the sand and ignoring the truth of the matter - which is that big intrusive government needs people to execute their programs - many of those people WANT to do this because they desire to have power over other people and such programs and positions give them an opportunity to have it. Who the fk else would want to be a lunch inspector at a fkn preschool hmm?



The truth that this person made a mistake, was called out on it publicly, and the school is already saying that the guy screwed up.


OMG big government is ruining our lives!!!


I also tend to think that the reason the person is incompetent because they are probably just a glorified lunch lady who isn't paid much.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Sin_of_Onin posted:

Cawlin posted:

LOL

You are putting your head in the sand and ignoring the truth of the matter - which is that big intrusive government needs people to execute their programs - many of those people WANT to do this because they desire to have power over other people and such programs and positions give them an opportunity to have it. Who the fk else would want to be a lunch inspector at a fkn preschool hmm?



The truth that this person made a mistake, was called out on it publicly, and the school is already saying that the guy screwed up.

OMG big government is ruining our lives!!!

I also tend to think that the reason the person is incompetent because they are probably just a glorified lunch lady who isn't paid much.



So it's OK to have intrusive programs even though the people running them are incompetent? It's OK that the people who have the power to do all manner of things, including control your child's diet are incompetent?

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Are they being held accountable for the horror that was trading a turkey sandwich for chicken nuggets?


I think the real hidden problem here is not the switch to the school lunch but the low quality school lunch. If you want to complain about government you have a much better argument there than whining about one person screwing up and getting called out on it and corrected. Millions of poor school lunches served daily and you think this one incident is the end of the world.


You are a dumbass.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Sin_of_Onin posted:

Are they being held accountable for the horror that was trading a turkey sandwich for chicken nuggets?

I think the real hidden problem here is not the switch to the school lunch but the low quality school lunch. If you want to complain about government you have a much better argument there than whining about one person screwing up and getting called out on it and corrected. Millions of poor school lunches served daily and you think this one incident is the end of the world.

You are a dumbass.



LOL I'm a dumbass because you don't understand that this is a symptom of a larger issue and not the entirety of the issue itself?

I've stated that point perhaps a half a dozen times in this thread.

The people who run these intrusive government programs are generally the types of people who WANT to run intrusive government programs and who WANT to be able to tell you and me and everyone what to do, how to live. THAT is the trouble with big government and the article here is just an example of that.

Incidentally, incompetence is the LEAST of the insidious problems with intrusive big government programs - I'm intentionally leaving out the issue of corruption which is rampant and only surpassed by incompetence in frequency when it comes to government programs.

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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So your example of corruption and incompetence proving how big government is bad is a situation where a lunch lady determines that a kid's lunch doesn't meet standards(correctly btw) and then screws up by charging the kid for a full lunch instead of just supplementing the kid's lunch with an apple or something?


You are making mountains out of molehills. It is comical to watch though so keep it up.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Sin_of_Onin posted:

So your example of corruption and incompetence proving how big government is bad is a situation where a lunch lady determines that a kid's lunch doesn't meet standards(correctly btw) and then screws up by charging the kid for a full lunch instead of just supplementing the kid's lunch with an apple or something?

You are making mountains out of molehills. It is comical to watch though so keep it up.



You are intentionally downplaying it because you're a big, intrusive government supporter - no surprise given that you're a government employee. It's comical to watch you try to spin it as if the issue is about this post when the issue is clearly about the inability to sustain the big government desires of you and people like you.

 

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