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Taliesihne  4 stars
Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
_Gronk_ posted:

Please tell us how all the above people who are concerned about the changes are uneducated rubes also, Tali.

Dumbass.





That's easy. Your link is shite and full of lies. The whole thing is to be disbelieved.

 

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_Gronk_  1 star
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Taliesihne posted:

_Gronk_ posted:

Please tell us how all the above people who are concerned about the changes are uneducated rubes also, Tali.

Dumbass.





That's easy. Your link is shite and full of lies. The whole thing is to be disbelieved.



Meet Taliesihne, the shill for those who would reduce the benefits to our present and future military veterans.

Tali: Nothing to see here, move on.....


http://www.navytimes.com/news/2012/02/military-veterans-groups-unhappy-with-budget-021412w/

Legion, MOAA unhappy with 2013 budget


NAVY TIMES posted:

The nation’s largest veterans group and the biggest association for military officers wasted no time launching complaints about the 2013 defense budget unveiled on Monday.

The 2.4 million-member American Legion says the budget’s proposals to raise health care fees for retirees and create a commission to study ways to reduce military retirement costs break promises to current service members and send a bad message to future troops.

“By increasing, and in some cases quadrupling, health insurance fees for military retirees, you are sending a powerful message to those in uniform and to their families that their decades of service and sacrifice are unappreciated,” said Fang Wong, the the Legion’s national commander, of the Pentagon’s plans for higher Tricare fees for working-age retirees.

While Pentagon officials have promised that any potential changes in retired pay would not apply to current service members, Wong said that doesn’t make it a good idea for the military. “Grandfathering benefits cuts merely tells tomorrow’s veterans that their service isn’t as valuable as those who served before them,” Wong said.

The president of the Military Officers Association of America called the proposed Tricare fee increases a “breach of faith” and accused the Pentagon of using “bait and switch” tactics because modest increases were approved last year and were believed to be the final word on changes.'



Tali = Dumbass.

SoBaKi  2 stars
Posts: 487
Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
_Gronk_ posted:

Taliesihne posted:

_Gronk_ posted:

Please tell us how all the above people who are concerned about the changes are uneducated rubes also, Tali.


Dumbass.






That's easy. Your link is shite and full of lies. The whole thing is to be disbelieved.



Meet Taliesihne, the shill for those who would reduce the benefits to our present and future military veterans.


Tali: Nothing to see here, move on.....


http://www.navytimes.com/news/2012/02/military-veterans-groups-unhappy-with-budget-021412w/


Legion, MOAA unhappy with 2013 budget


NAVY TIMES posted:

The nation’s largest veterans group and the biggest association for military officers wasted no time launching complaints about the 2013 defense budget unveiled on Monday.


The 2.4 million-member American Legion says the budget’s proposals to raise health care fees for retirees and create a commission to study ways to reduce military retirement costs break promises to current service members and send a bad message to future troops.


“By increasing, and in some cases quadrupling, health insurance fees for military retirees, you are sending a powerful message to those in uniform and to their families that their decades of service and sacrifice are unappreciated,” said Fang Wong, the the Legion’s national commander, of the Pentagon’s plans for higher Tricare fees for working-age retirees.


While Pentagon officials have promised that any potential changes in retired pay would not apply to current service members, Wong said that doesn’t make it a good idea for the military. “Grandfathering benefits cuts merely tells tomorrow’s veterans that their service isn’t as valuable as those who served before them,” Wong said.


The president of the Military Officers Association of America called the proposed Tricare fee increases a “breach of faith” and accused the Pentagon of using “bait and switch” tactics because modest increases were approved last year and were believed to be the final word on changes.'



Tali = Dumbass.






Do you even understand the problems this country is experiencing?


Liliputian posted:

ARGLEBARGLE!



Ahh, so the answer is no.

 

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_Gronk_  1 star
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That doesn't make it right to screw military veterans over.

Without them, you would have no country

SoBaKi  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
_Gronk_ posted:

That doesn't make it right to screw military veterans over.


Without them, you would have no country






You do understand that adults need to be able to make decisions regardless of emotions. If you're not capable of removing emotion, given the incredible fiscal challenges we as a nation are facing, consider yourself at the childrens' table.


Sometimes, morality MUST take a back seat to pragmatism. We need to cut spending across the Federal Government and NO ONE should be immune.

 

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reesescups  4 stars
Title: //Captain America
Posts: 2,537
Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
Ok so the President isn't suppose to listen to those big wigs at the Pentagon on issues pertaining to our Military. Got it!


Also - 80% of the Armed Forces support Ron Paul!


 

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_Gronk_  1 star
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It's going to be a great recruiting tool as military veterans tell potential (future) military enlistees/officer HOW the government screwed them over on retirement benefits and how unappreciative civilians are at their service.

Find someone else to defend your sorry arses.

Yukishiro1  4 stars
Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
I wonder if 80% of the military realizes that 80% of the military wouldn't have jobs if Ron Paul's vision of the military was actually put into practice. You don't need an army as big as the one we have if you don't use it overseas.
_Gronk_  1 star
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You still need to uphold the benefits for those who might serve, and have served.

The benefits is really the only reason why any of us served.

The respect of serving we have amongst ourselves, it's not like the majority of civilians really give a shit.

And it's not like you can give those years of service back to one's life.

They are gone, those years spent defending the freedoms many civilians take for granted.


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But you are free to have your own opinions on the matter.

I came back to the thread simply because Tali said this story was absolutely not true.

Tali = debunked dumbass.


SoBaKi  2 stars
Posts: 487
Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
_Gronk_ posted:

It's going to be a great recruiting tool as military veterans tell potential (future) military enlistees/officer HOW the government screwed them over on retirement benefits and how unappreciative civilians are at their service.


Find someone else to defend your sorry arses.






In other words, you really don't understand the problems.


Got it. Please do not spill your dixie cup full of fruit punch on the other children.

 

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