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eodoll  Posts: 1,028
Registered: 2002-2-14 12:35:42
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My insurance costs went up and my benefits went down...
In other words, im paying more for less.
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guy i work with is in his 50s. his wife has been struggling with cancer for as long as ive known him.
she recently had an episode that cost them a couple months wages.
she had a very mild stroke that left her in the hospital and needing a live in nurse or to be in an aftercare place.
she spent 2 days in the aftercare place before the insurance company kicked her out.
he cant be at home to take care of her and she cant be left alone.
insurance has said; "screw you. youre on your own bub."
our company has started searching for a new insurance carrier.
this current one is one that we switched to when our old one went up 15%. that was when i dropped my insurance.
im not paying 450 bucks a month for a company that does nothing but take my money.
my co worker has been on edge and ready to snap on anyone, lately.
in a civilized country, shed be able to get the care she needs.
i hope someday this country will become as civilized as the majority of the rest of the world
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Elkad  Title: aka Ebenezer
Posts: 407
Registered: 2003-9-11 22:20:55
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sweeny_comodore posted:
Elkad posted:
Get rid of EMTLA in it's current form. (you can require hospitals to help people, just pay them instantly with fed funds, and then put it back on the patient as a tax lien).
lol
yeah
thats a smart idea.
nothing like a 500k tax bill against your 40k annual income after you broke your leg and got an infection.
if you want to do that, why not just instate a national tax pool that pays everyone bills?
The point is that hospitals are forced to take anyone, and in some areas don't get paid for a large portion of their patients. Most of those people are just trying to score pain pills, or a free meal, or are too cheap to buy their baby some cold medicine. After all, it's free! Use the emergency room for everything. No need to call a taxi, the noisy white bus will take you for free. Heck, you don't even need to have a working phone, any old junker will dial 911.
So all those costs get passed on to the rest of us, by the hospital overcharging those of us that do pay. But if "welfare mommy" knew a bottle of triaminic for her runny-nosed brat was going to chop $500 off her income tax return, maybe she'd scrape up some change and buy it herself.
If you want to argue help for catastrophic stuff, sure. It's not the big rare problems that are expensive, its the hordes of people stealing 10 grand a year worth of unnecessary emergency room visits.
I know whole families who never pay a medical bill. They just go to the emergency room for everything. Some just don't care about their credit rating. The smart ones just give a fake name/SSN and never even see a bill.
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Sweeny, I never said they werent universal health care. I said they weren't single payer. Try reading next time.
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theredkay1  Posts: 611
Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
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GrilledCheez posted:
This is obamacare. The idea that insurance companies will cover everyone and nobody will pay for it is pretty silly.
The legislation contained specific revenues to pay for this stuff.
When healthcare threads come up you suddenly turn into paul and argue against positions or policies that exist only in your head.
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most of those people scamming the system probably dont pay taxes either...
theres more than enough healthy people to cover the sick.
put an end to the scammers.
tell them to gtfo.
i have no problem with the belgian system in that you have to HAVE A JOB to take advantage of the healthcare.
maybe it will drive the welfare class to get a job at macDs and push out some of the illegals
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Snarf_Igraine posted:
Sweeny, I never said they werent universal health care. I said they weren't single payer. Try reading next time.
nobody else said they were single payer either
try reading.
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theredkay1 Posts: 611
Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
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Elkad posted:
The point is that hospitals are forced to take anyone, and in some areas don't get paid for a large portion of their patients. Most of those people are just trying to score pain pills, or a free meal, or are too cheap to buy their baby some cold medicine. After all, it's free! Use the emergency room for everything. No need to call a taxi, the noisy white bus will take you for free. Heck, you don't even need to have a working phone, any old junker will dial 911.
So all those costs get passed on to the rest of us, by the hospital overcharging those of us that do pay. But if "welfare mommy" knew a bottle of triaminic for her runny-nosed brat was going to chop $500 off her income tax return, maybe she'd scrape up some change and buy it herself.
If you want to argue help for catastrophic stuff, sure. It's not the big rare problems that are expensive, its the hordes of people stealing 10 grand a year worth of unnecessary emergency room visits.
I know whole families who never pay a medical bill. They just go to the emergency room for everything. Some just don't care about their credit rating. The smart ones just give a fake name/SSN and never even see a bill.
Almost all of the healthcare costs in this country are end of life care. You are arguing over peanuts and dumbing down the thread with your need for class warfare.
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sweeny_comodore posted:
Snarf_Igraine posted:
Sweeny, I never said they werent universal health care. I said they weren't single payer. Try reading next time.
nobody else said they were single payer either
try reading.
You excel in stupid. Again, try reading.
I can't really think of a 1st world country besides America that doesn't have single payer or something close to it –Yukishiro1
What we need is a single payer system like every other 1st world country -Szerek
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bah
nevermind.
i think my eyes are too tired
im going to bed
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