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Szerek  Posts: 338
Registered: 2000-8-8 09:26:09
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Ashmaele posted:
Szerek posted:
What we need is a single payer system like every other 1st world country. Is it really that hard to look at all the other systems and take what works for each and remove what doesn't work for each?
When the Reps screw up again there will be a new wave of Dems elected and we'll get it. Eventually.
I don't think so. Every time they tell us they are going to make something better for us as far as healthcare goes it is tilted heavily toward more profitability for industry. There are a thousand ways both Medicare Part D and Obamacare could have been better, but what we end up with is a system that is generally about as bad as it could be for the consumer and a windfall for corporate America.
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Ashmaele  Title: Pastor of Muppets
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Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
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Szerek posted:
Ashmaele posted:
Szerek posted:
What we need is a single payer system like every other 1st world country. Is it really that hard to look at all the other systems and take what works for each and remove what doesn't work for each?
When the Reps screw up again there will be a new wave of Dems elected and we'll get it. Eventually.
I don't think so. Every time they tell us they are going to make something better for us as far as healthcare goes it is tilted heavily toward more profitability for industry. There are a thousand ways both Medicare Part D and Obamacare could have been better, but what we end up with is a system that is generally about as bad as it could be for the consumer and a windfall for corporate America.
I don't disagree with your assessment, I just think that the current system is completely unsustainable so that eventually, by default, we will end up with single payer.
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DemonicXH  Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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Registered: 2003-12-1 08:14:17
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Eager_Igraine posted:
DemonicXH posted:
Elocism posted:
so higher costs for everyone?
super
Health insurance premiums have been on the rise for the past few years since Obamacare was introduced.
Our health insurance premiums went up 150% under Bush and 10% under Obama.
just sayin'
That's wrong but okay. Insurance rates in 2011 jumped 9% the highest since 2005. Where typically the rates follow inflation and wages and increase about 3-4% per year. You're probably seeing bigger increases because you aged 12 years.
I am a licensed insurance agent so I get all types of crap from both sides of the fence regarding Obamacare.
My opnion is it's a great idea, but it's implemented horribly.
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Szerek Posts: 338
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DemonicXH posted:
I am a licensed insurance agent so I get all types of crap from both sides of the fence regarding Obamacare.
So you admit to being part of the problem and not part of the solution!
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Szerek posted:
What we need is a single payer system like every other 1st world country. Is it really that hard to look at all the other systems and take what works for each and remove what doesn't work for each?
Most of the 1st world countries DO NOT have single payer systems. Think before you post.
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Groucho48 Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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So, were we just letting all these folks die before? Or, were we treating them and the costs were spread amongst the rest of us, anyway, but, in a very inefficient and unequal way?
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Snarf_Igraine posted:
Szerek posted:
What we need is a single payer system like every other 1st world country. Is it really that hard to look at all the other systems and take what works for each and remove what doesn't work for each?
Most of the 1st world countries DO NOT have single payer systems. Think before you post.
Not really. Britain has single payer. Canada has single payer. Most of continental europe has national health insurance of some sort or another, even if it isn't strictly speaking single payer. So does Japan, although the Japanese system doesn't provide 100% coverage. South Korea has a similar system. So does Taiwan.
I can't really think of a 1st world country besides America that doesn't have single payer or something close to it.
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GrilledCheez Title: The Lord's Balls
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Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
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The law was stupid and broken as written. The only people who should be ashamed of themselves are those that believed the hype. And yes I'm talking to groucho and Remnant.
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
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In their defense, they didn't believe the hype at the time. They're just pretending they do now because the Dumocrats need stooges like them to.
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Groucho48 Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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You guys do realize that this isn't Obamacare? It's a bridge to cover the gap between when insurance companies refused to cover or found loop holes to drop them once they did need coverage, and, Obamacare, which will say insurance companies have to cover everyone?
You also realize that we have been paying for this health care all along, just in a hit or miss manner, and, after making hospitals divvy up those costs amongst everyone else, but, not before driving those sick folk's families into bankruptcy first.
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