Koneg posted:
Typhis1 posted:
Most tornadoes are moving at 20-60 mph. And they are anywhere from 300 yards to 1 mile wide. Most to tornadoes do not give you warning. A siren will go off if a tornado is likely or one has been spotted but many are wrapped in rain, occur in darkness, or drop after the siren has gone off.
Wich is why I said "provided you see it coming". Experience a few severe storm seasons in tornado alley and tell me how many of them you see coming if you are not actively watching for them.
You can't outrun one - but you can certainly get out of its way if you see it coming, even if you're on foot.
Typhis1 posted:
You are not going to jog out of its way.
Give me a break.
You can easily get out of the
path of a tornado you see coming. If you want to stomp your feet and tell me you can't outrun one you're absolutely right, but then again that's not what we're talking about. Don't try to tell me you can't A) see where the tornado is going (currently, and it can change) and then B) go the way the tornado... isn't?
You said you could jog out of the way like you wold with a train or car. And have you ever been in the path of a tornado? It is almost impossible to tell which absolute direction it is traveling when it is headed roughly in your direction. It just looks bigger. They also tend to meander, not head in a perfectly straight line, much like a broom sweeping a floor side to side. The base moves while the top stays in one place. The only way a tornado ISN'T going is backwards, although the funnel base can shift back a certain distance, the tornado itself will not reverse direction completely. And I am pretty sure I didn't stomp any feet, just aghast that you would be so absolute in giving tornado advice that could likely get someone killed. I take tornadoes very seriously as I have personally seen what they do on a large and small scale. Hypothetically or not, attempting to jog or even drive out of the way of one that is close enough to see (a few miles or less) is asking for trouble.
As I said before, if it is close enough for you to see, considering they are usually difficult to see if you are in their path due to rain being wrapped around it in a curtain, that means it is within a mile or 2 of you and will over take you since they move at speeds of 20 to 60/70 mph. You are telling me that something 100 yards or wider is going to miss you jogging at a direction away from it (perpendicular or otherwise) when it can cover a mile in no time? Sure, ideal conditions and with a lot of luck you could avoid a very small tornado on foot but saying that it is easily done with a small tornado is laughable. Especially considering they ARE unpredictable unless you are miles away and on the back side.
And all of the above goes out the window if it's F3 or better, since those things move much faster and are highly erratic... meaning you can jog out of its way and have the thing turn suddenly and come right at you.
Actually the bigger ones often move slower, they just cover more ground in width which makes them hard to get around, it is the small ones that tend to whip around a lot or speed across the ground.
Typhis1 posted:
Telling someone they can outrun one or jog out of its way is just going to get someone killed
No one is suggesting that you should run right up next to the damn thing and wait for someone to shoot a starter pistol.
And I never said that at all. But suggesting someone can jog out of the way of a force of nature that is unpredictable in behavior is folly. All an F1 or F2 has to do is tilt a bit and the base can cover a mile or more in seconds. Even if you see it coming. if it is several miles away, sure you can jog out of its path. But then again if you see an avalanche coming from several miles away I am sure you can jog out its way as well...
Problem is with tornadoes, very rarely do you get enough advanced warning, once they are on the ground, that you can avoid them on foot. What is your idea of seeing it coming? 10 miles away? Video footage from one in another state?
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