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Author Topic: Marine in hot water for badmouthing his commander in chief on Facebook [Locked]
ZigmundZag  4 stars
Title: Grammar Nazi
Posts: 1,211
Registered: 2002-3-25 23:03:00
Cawlin posted:

It gets better and better.

You idiots immediately took this as a lib/conservative issue and jumped on it like the guy was trying to raise his own counter-US army and jumped on me like I was defending him. I think you're wearing out the whole "NO U!" thing dude.

I hate to break it to you, chief, but you were the one who tried to make this about Obama and not the UCMJ. The standard applies to the chain of command, not the individual. I tried to spare you a little embarrassment there by pointing out that even Fist couldn't bring himself to defend this, but you just kept on digging.

 

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Z-Elder  3 stars
Posts: 671
Registered: 2002-3-15 13:58:39
Mastara posted:

It happens all the time. The only reason its a big deal is because its facebook and it speaks of Obama. When Bush was in, this crap never got attention.



It is more than that. As I posted above they have been dealing with this tard since 2010. The NCO is now trying to walk a line and not violate the UCMJ and/or the Hatch act with his poltical crap. He can legally have his opinions and even write about them but he has shown that he keeps crossing the line. His unit should not have to put up with having to babysit him nor teach him how to be legal.


This also isn't just a guy being stupid as Cawlin is trying to make it into since it has gone on for almost 2 years. A Marine NCO that is a disruption for 2 years? F him and his games.

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
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Registered: 2009-7-25 03:04:52
I hear now that some jobs want to look at your facebook page before they will offer you a job. Thats outrageous. Still dont post anything negative about work on Facebook or other social media

 

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GrilledCheez  4 stars
Title: The Lord's Balls
Posts: 1,060
Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
hahah marines r dum.

 

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Eager_Igraine  4 stars
Posts: 1,036
Registered: 2002-11-21 11:55:52
Ashmaele posted:

Eager_Igraine posted:

I'm thinking he's violated a few rules and will be disciplined.


He also seems like a douche. A Marine NCO is not where I would expect this level of public stupid to crop up, but it takes all kinds I guess.



I agree with all of this.


That said...does he have an underlying point? Does his constitutionally guaranteed right to free speech extend this far? And should it? Good questions IMO whether or not this guy is an idiot.



Sorry, slow response.


It seems like this guy is an idiot making trouble, but time will tell.


I don't think his underlying point is lacking largely because he appears to be politicking while in uniform and intentionally so, and while I haven't researched the relevant ucmj material, I'm pretty sure his actions are not allowed, even skipping the stupidity of not following the CinC's orders. I talked to my buddy the Marine NCO and his response was 'wtf, that tard needs some "counseling", you can't do that'.

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
Posts: 5,122
Registered: 2009-7-25 03:04:52
He should have the right to say he wouldnt obey an order, free speech. He should only be disciplined if he doesnt obey a lawful order. Until then he should be free to say his mind

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
Posts: 1,216
Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
face book?

seriously?

are we in middle school and someone just badmouthed the principal on the playground?


gtfo
whoever reads face book or even gives a half a shit about whats posted there is a tard.
let him write whatever he wants. who effing cares?

 

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ineenia  2 stars
Posts: 373
Registered: 2005-11-1 04:48:33
He should be disciplined and be dishonorably discharged.IMO it would be unthinkable to leave him in an organization where lives depend on him following orders when it is clear he is looking for a situation where he'll feel justified in disobeying orders.It would be beyond irresponsible to leave him in and wait and see what happens.

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
Posts: 1,216
Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
ineenia posted:

He should be disciplined and be dishonorably discharged.IMO it would be unthinkable to leave him in an organization where lives depend on him following orders when it is clear he is looking for a situation where he'll feel justified in disobeying orders.It would be beyond irresponsible to leave him in and wait and see what happens.



lives depend more on disobeying orders than on following orders.
lives depend on teamwork and trust in your fellows, not the orders to run into that machine gun.


stop talking and youll sound less retarded

 

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Friarspam  3 stars
Posts: 638
Registered: 2007-1-23 07:01:27
He's guilty of insubordination if he posted he wouldn't "follow orders" from the President. If he said later "unlawful orders" then he's just an idiot. Nobody is supposed to follow unlawful orders.

 

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