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Voodoo-Dahl  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-5-11 05:11:16
Cawlin posted:

Sooo... your point is what then? Are you saying that you believe his intent was not to mean "unlawful orders" and simply "any orders"?



I don't know if this is possible for you but, stop being a moron.
Ashmaele  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
Cawlin posted:

Sooo... your point is what then? Are you saying that you believe his intent was not to mean "unlawful orders" and simply "any orders"?



Um did you read the article? Hell don't even bother with the article just read the first few sentences I quoted in the OP.

 

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imaloon1  3 stars
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Probably.


Which could be construed as an attempt at a coup and subject him to all manner of crap. Terrorism charges etc...

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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You guys are hilarious. It's like anytime someone makes an anti Obama remark, they are sticking their finger right in your own ass.

Yeah the dude posted something that was stupid and that is a no-no in the military. He later changed it. You guys are assuming motive and not stupidity is the reason for his action. Meanwhile, I suggest that you probably don't know enough to ascertain whether this was the guy's intention to subvert his chain of command or if this was as a result of his ignorance, and I'm the moron here...

Sure, the guy is probably going to be sanctioned, and rightfully so, big deal. He posted something stupid and verboten, whether he meant to or not, his mistake.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
The guy sounds like a moronic douchebag but I don't think anything should happen to him.
Cawlin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
Yukishiro1 posted:

The guy sounds like a moronic douchebag but I don't think anything should happen to him.



Oh no Yuki! The guy's clearly a terrorist despot bent on the overthrow of the US government, working from within our own military! STRING HIM UP!!!!

 

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Moe_Nox  4 stars
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Under the current wording what he did isn't allowed. However I disagree with it. Short of actually threatening anyone or hostile actions, soldiers should be allowed reasonable freedom of speech as well. I mean its Facebook. He should be able to say what he wants, as long as he respects all superiors in person at all times.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Punish him when he actually fails to obey an order. He's obviously just a moronic guy who likes to talk tough but I'm sure he'd roll over completely when push comes to shove because people like that always do.
Ashmaele  4 stars
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Cawlin posted:

Yukishiro1 posted:

The guy sounds like a moronic douchebag but I don't think anything should happen to him.



Oh no Yuki! The guy's clearly a terrorist despot bent on the overthrow of the US government, working from within our own military! STRING HIM UP!!!!



Yes that is EXACTLY what everyone is saying should happen

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
Moe_Nox posted:

Under the current wording what he did isn't allowed. However I disagree with it. Short of actually threatening anyone or hostile actions, soldiers should be allowed reasonable freedom of speech as well. I mean its Facebook. He should be able to say what he wants, as long as he respects all superiors in person at all times.



That's a little bit more of a gray area concept imo.

Sedition includes written propaganda. I think it's necessary for the military to keep a lid on it. It's one of the sacrifices a soldier makes.

However, I don't think this guy intended to foment insurrection or anything, I just think he was stupid.

 

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