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reesescups  4 stars
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IMHO posted:



You can't even figure out how to post a pic....

How long you been posting here?


Hint: google solar system formation.

 

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IMHO  4 stars
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Wikipedia posted:

The formation and evolution of the Solar System is estimated to have begun 4.568 billion years ago with the gravitational collapse of a small part of a giant molecular cloud.[1] Most of the collapsing mass collected in the centre, forming the Sun, while the rest flattened into a protoplanetary disk out of which the planets, moons, asteroids, and other small Solar System bodies formed.



That is basically what I said. The theory NEVER states when the sun ignites. Being that the sun was much bigger than the earth and other planets I bet they were in the process of forming just before the sun ignited.

 

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Halloweve  2 stars
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God created, then nature did it's thing.


The curious thing about creation I have is how was a day measured? I have read a small amount of time to God is like centuries to a man.


I can understand how people who do not believe there is a God want proof. I wish there was some way I could put it into words to inspire someone enough to seek God, but I am not gifted like that.

I have no problem sharing ..I have twice here with something real to me. I think I shared my kidney story and the butterfly one when i was little. I had never even heard of God on the little girl story. My parents never took me to church.

I have had a couple other definent things happen to me. I have also had a dark expierience happen to me.

I don't think I am special or important. Even tho I think i have always believed in God, I spent many years ignoring Him. It wasn't until my kidney ordeal that opened my eyes again, and I knew i needed more than a doctor. I promised i wouldn't forget Him again.


I am going to share another moment that happened to me. This is not made up or just in my head..I never have taken drugs in my life..lol. It's ok if you want to make fun of me.I can roll with that .


Ok..here it goes, it's short and sweet.

I was alone..daytime..praying to God, as much as I hate to admit..I was praying for more.

As I was praying..i was admiring how beautiful the oaks leaves were..the sun was glittery..bouncing off all the leaves.

I promise you that exact moment as I was praying for more..I heard the Voice of God..clear..not in my head..and this is what he said.


"If I gave you all you asked for, would this moment be any more beautiful."


That was it, no more no less. All I could say was no..it shook me up for real.

It really did happen, just like that.
Tych2  4 stars
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IMHO posted:

reesescups posted:

Earth came after the Sun



Can you show me the science that says the sun came first or, better yet, that the sun was ignited before the formless earth?

Are you goddamn high?

 

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IMHO  4 stars
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Tych2 posted:

IMHO posted:

reesescups posted:

Earth came after the Sun



Can you show me the science that says the sun came first or, better yet, that the sun was ignited before the formless earth?

Are you goddamn high?



Nope.

I'm giving you what I think. You can't counter it with logic? I'm not the one you should be questioning as to who is high.

 

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Manegarm  4 stars
Title: European Imperialist Good Guy
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Registered: 2003-8-11 10:01:52
Halloweve posted:

God created, then nature did it's thing.

The curious thing about creation I have is how was a day measured? I have read a small amount of time to God is like centuries to a man.

I can understand how people who do not believe there is a God want proof. I wish there was some way I could put it into words to inspire someone enough to seek God, but I am not gifted like that.
I have no problem sharing ..I have twice here with something real to me. I think I shared my kidney story and the butterfly one when i was little. I had never even heard of God on the little girl story. My parents never took me to church.
I have had a couple other definent things happen to me. I have also had a dark expierience happen to me.
I don't think I am special or important. Even tho I think i have always believed in God, I spent many years ignoring Him. It wasn't until my kidney ordeal that opened my eyes again, and I knew i needed more than a doctor. I promised i wouldn't forget Him again.

I am going to share another moment that happened to me. This is not made up or just in my head..I never have taken drugs in my life..lol. It's ok if you want to make fun of me.I can roll with that .

Ok..here it goes, it's short and sweet.
I was alone..daytime..praying to God, as much as I hate to admit..I was praying for more.
As I was praying..i was admiring how beautiful the oaks leaves were..the sun was glittery..bouncing off all the leaves.
I promise you that exact moment as I was praying for more..I heard the Voice of God..clear..not in my head..and this is what he said.

"If I gave you all you asked for, would this moment be any more beautiful."

That was it, no more no less. All I could say was no..it shook me up for real.
It really did happen, just like that.



Yes your delusions are obviously evidence enough..

Of course God would manifest himself in some obscure emotional sense instead of any actual real sense, and of course he spoke to you..

You're obviously more important then the millions of people he does not speak too I mean he'd obviously take time to speak to you instead of saving the life of some starving child in Africa and I mean it had to have been the Juedo-Christian god too not Ganesh or Thor. I mean that seems a lot more plausible then the notion that you just imagined it all because of stress or conditioning? It's not like the human mind is awesome at tricking itself..

I love how this self delusion is actually socially accepted, when other idiots like you hear you tell your story they don't ask you "are you mentally sound?" they instead applaud your for your "spirituality", no wonder this crap is rampant in the world when you've got a multitude of hopeful desperate idiots leading on another flock of equally stupid desperate people.

Instead of thinking "okay what the f'k just happened to me and what is wrong" you had the brilliant notion "THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE AND ALL IN IT SPOKE TO ME!"

Give me a break, you people are so caught up in the drama of your own existence that you actually believe for a second that you're anything special.

IMHO I can actually understand he's a weakling and needed support..

edit: The best thing is that you'll probably smile and not take any of this in or even spend a moment being critical of what you really experienced you'll go on your emotions or your "faith" and just shrug it off.

 

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reesescups  4 stars
Title: //Captain America
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For your glorious benefit since I had to get up to answer an email anyway...


IMHO posted:

Wikipedia posted:

The formation and evolution of the Solar System is estimated to have begun 4.568 billion years ago with the gravitational collapse of a small part of a giant molecular cloud.[1] Most of the collapsing mass collected in the centre, forming the Sun, while the rest flattened into a protoplanetary disk out of which the planets, moons, asteroids, and other small Solar System bodies formed.



That is basically what I said.

Not even close to what you said...


IMHO posted:

Myself I can see the big bang happening and all this matter is spewed out into darkness and is starting to coagulate together.

The big bang happened about 10 Billion years before our solar system formed. Our Sun is a 3rd or 4th generation star.


IMHO posted:

There are giant clouds of dust, God puts the earth together because it is small then the sun stats up. It makes scientific sense to me.

You said 'God' puts the earth together AND THEN 'starts' up the sun.

As you just quoted from WIki - the first solar system formation that happens is the gravity collapse of the dust cloud - this is the material that eventually forms the Sun. - for a time line of when it 'ignited' look up solar density related to gravity nuclear reactions... In the mean time - the mass of the forming Sun is what is the driving force to coalesce the other material of the planetary disk into planets... By the time 'water' makes it onto the surface of the planet in any measurable amount - trust me, there be light up in this bitch, ya hear me???

 

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Tych2  4 stars
Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
IMHO posted:

You can't counter it with logic?

Why would I want to?? I don't care to educate you. I am not your teacher. Laughing at you is much more entertaining.

 

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Tych2 posted:

IMHO posted:

You can't counter it with logic?

Why would I want to?? I don't care to educate you. I am not your teacher. Laughing at you is much more entertaining.





 

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