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Modeeb  Title: A Ghost In The Machine
Posts: 1,258
Registered: 2002-4-19 10:48:36
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Yep. You cannot change people. Make your life as harmonious as possible by enjoying life notwithstanding this human cactus sticking everyone who comes in contact with her.
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Halloweve  Posts: 422
Registered: 2004-3-6 10:19:02
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Ok, I see then Yuki.
I know for a fact that a new hire lasted about 4 months last year entirely because of how she was treated by her.
I also know this person made complaints and asked for help. She finally just couldn't take it.
This woman had her so frightened that she would deal with me to deal with her..like a go between, because of intimidation.
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Lyken-P Posts: 453
Registered: 2006-1-14 18:41:19
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Yukishiro1 posted:
uh for what? some of you are sorta funny. you can't sue a company for having an employee who is an asshole.
http://undercoverlawyer.hubpages.com/hub/Hostile-Work-Environment-How-Bully-Bosses-Cause-Lawsuits
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4. The “Higher Up†Managers Shrug-off Employee Complaints
If there’s anything that I hear over and over again it’s that an employee complained about a bully boss to a higher level manager, and the higher level manager just shrugs it off, taking no action whatsoever. Defense-side lawyers are trying hard to train managers not to do this, but they do it anyway.
So what does this mean for you as an employee? You should complain to your manager, your HR person, or your boss’ boss. However, expect them not to do much, if anything, about your problem. You should carefully document that you did make these complaints. Send the boss's boss an e-mail confirming that you had a conversation with them. Briefly summarize the key points and blind copy yourself to a personal e-mail address outside the company before you hit SEND.
This way you will have a copy of the e-mail that shows it was sent to your manager's boss with the date and the time. It will then be the company's burden to show (in court or in front of the EEOC) that it responded to you. Will they have? Probably not. Often a boss responds with comments like “I’m not a babysitter†or “boys will be boys†or “I want everyone here to act like adults.†They think that such a cursory response is enough, but it’s not. Their lack of responsiveness to good faith employee concerns is a big cause of employee lawsuits, and a big reason why employees win those suits later on down the road.
I'm pretty sure you can substitute manager and co-worker. As long as you prove the company has been negligent in this matter.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Sansfear posted:
Yukishiro1 posted:
uh for what? some of you are sorta funny. you can't sue a company for having an employee who is an asshole.
No, but you can if HR refuses to address harassment charges. That is their job.
You're suggesting she falsely accuse the employee of sexual harassment to force them to react even when that isn't what the problem is?
I'm not sure that's such a good strategy.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Lyken-P posted:
Yukishiro1 posted:
uh for what? some of you are sorta funny. you can't sue a company for having an employee who is an asshole.
http://undercoverlawyer.hubpages.com/hub/Hostile-Work-Environment-How-Bully-Bosses-Cause-Lawsuits
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4. The “Higher Up†Managers Shrug-off Employee Complaints
If there’s anything that I hear over and over again it’s that an employee complained about a bully boss to a higher level manager, and the higher level manager just shrugs it off, taking no action whatsoever. Defense-side lawyers are trying hard to train managers not to do this, but they do it anyway.
So what does this mean for you as an employee? You should complain to your manager, your HR person, or your boss’ boss. However, expect them not to do much, if anything, about your problem. You should carefully document that you did make these complaints. Send the boss's boss an e-mail confirming that you had a conversation with them. Briefly summarize the key points and blind copy yourself to a personal e-mail address outside the company before you hit SEND.
This way you will have a copy of the e-mail that shows it was sent to your manager's boss with the date and the time. It will then be the company's burden to show (in court or in front of the EEOC) that it responded to you. Will they have? Probably not. Often a boss responds with comments like “I’m not a babysitter†or “boys will be boys†or “I want everyone here to act like adults.†They think that such a cursory response is enough, but it’s not. Their lack of responsiveness to good faith employee concerns is a big cause of employee lawsuits, and a big reason why employees win those suits later on down the road.
I'm pretty sure you can substitute manager and co-worker. As long as you prove the company has been negligent in this matter.
I don't think you're getting it. There is no law that lets you sue a company for having an asshole employee. Harassment has to be because of some protected characteristic. This person is an asshole towards everyone, not just women or black people or whatever.
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Z-Elder  Posts: 671
Registered: 2002-3-15 13:58:39
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The thing is you are now indirectly saying something about the office supervisor who has been blowing this off when you go above him/her.
How large of a company are you at?
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Halloweve Posts: 422
Registered: 2004-3-6 10:19:02
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I don't want to sue them, I want them to take proper action. I don't want her fired..I want her put in her place.
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Ptilk Title: Creepy old pirate
Posts: 2,359
Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
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Look her in the eye and say, "Shut the f*ck up c*nt" when she starts on one of her tirades. It works.
She thinks she can curse at you with impunity. Give it right back to her. When she startles to a momentary stop after you tell her to STFU, tell her she is a god damned harpy whore and treats people like shit and you are sick and tired of it. You work there, it's not your life, you aren't related to her, it's not your damn problem, so go f*ck herself.
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__Bonk__  Posts: 5,122
Registered: 2009-7-25 03:04:52
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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That person needs to be talked to, warned, and if they do it again they should be let go. Unacceptable workplace behavior
The solution is to get her fired. She has anger management problems.
Also each time she does that to you document it. Then go to HR and your boss and make a formal complaint
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Lyken-P Posts: 453
Registered: 2006-1-14 18:41:19
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Yukishiro1 posted:
I don't think you're getting it. There is no law that lets you sue a company for having an asshole employee. Harassment has to be because of some protected characteristic. This person is an asshole towards everyone, not just women or black people or whatever.
Not true at all, you can't be an ass to people, give the excuse of "that's just me" or "I just have a temper" to keep getting away with being an ass.
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