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ZartanAround  3 stars
Title: Torpid Curmudgeon
Posts: 768
Registered: 2004-2-6 20:54:09
i worked with someone like this and rather than going to HR i did the following...

remain calm at all times...
if they are wrong, show how they are wrong ( i prefer to stress the implications of their wrongheadedness, but i'm a dick )
if they are right, help them to enact the change they seek


in this case, several other ppl went to HR.
it took several reportings before any actions were taken.
probably because they were all very minor.

 

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Manegarm  4 stars
Title: European Imperialist Good Guy
Posts: 1,964
Registered: 2003-8-11 10:01:52
Yukishiro1 posted:

@demonic

Here in the United States we don't have a system where the employer has to give a good reason for firing someone. We have a system where the employer can fire someone for no reason, but not for any reason.

You cannot fire someone for being black or a woman or for reporting discrimination against asian people or (in many cases) for reporting safety problems at work or that sort of thing or even for no reason at all.

You can generally fire someone for almost any other reason. You can fire someone because you don't like the color of their tie or the sound of their voice or because they complain you are being mean to them (not based on some protected catagory). None of those are protected.

There are exceptions to this general rule. Employees with employment contracts can only be fired for good cause, for example. Most employees don't have an employment contract, though.

IIRC there is also one state somewhere that isn't at will by default. Somewhere in the midwest.

Many European countries are different and you have to have a good reason for firing any employee at any time.



The workers really are bitches in the US.. Sad to see really.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Koneg posted:

You can sue anyone for anything. Literally.



Well sure. If you wanna pay the $350 filing fee you can file something.

But you arn't going to get anywhere except maybe sanctioned by the judge if you refuse to take no for an answer.
Halloweve  2 stars
Posts: 422
Registered: 2004-3-6 10:19:02
Ok, here is the latest ..I went in today just to talk to the manager.

He said he spoke with her and is taking the issue as a serious matter.

She admitted to the behavior.


He said he has some more to take care of and said we would talk Monday. I told him I was not looking to get her fired..I just want her put in her place, and i want to make sure she doesn't do this to anybody else again. I reminded him that i knew all the inside stuff on the new hire that had quit because of her and how he blew her off.

I also told him I had spoken with my old boss who is a corporate attorney and V.P. of a large corporation. I said he gave me some sage advice...and that I am well aware fo my rights. This seemed to make him sit a little straighter.

I think he may be taking it more serious because I never complain about anything or anybody.


I'm just going to continue on with a smile..say good morning and do my job..the same as i always do.


Thanks guys for all the good insight and information. I appreciate all of it.
Manegarm  4 stars
Title: European Imperialist Good Guy
Posts: 1,964
Registered: 2003-8-11 10:01:52
Halloweve posted:

Ok, here is the latest ..I went in today just to talk to the manager.
He said he spoke with her and is taking the issue as a serious matter.
She admitted to the behavior.

He said he has some more to take care of and said we would talk Monday. I told him I was not looking to get her fired..I just want her put in her place, and i want to make sure she doesn't do this to anybody else again. I reminded him that i knew all the inside stuff on the new hire that had quit because of her and how he blew her off.
I also told him I had spoken with my old boss who is a corporate attorney and V.P. of a large corporation. I said he gave me some sage advice...and that I am well aware fo my rights. This seemed to make him sit a little straighter.
I think he may be taking it more serious because I never complain about anything or anybody.

I'm just going to continue on with a smile..say good morning and do my job..the same as i always do.

Thanks guys for all the good insight and information. I appreciate all of it.



I would have simply called my union and let them slug it out with my company.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Sounds like you handled it well. I would not do anything else until you see how things pan out. Hopefully that will be the end of it.

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