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MayorShade  2 stars
Title: Not Special Forces
Posts: 258
Registered: 2004-3-1 10:40:52
the_great_ontex posted:

Like it or not projects like MK-Ultra and operation Northwoods do in fact exist

That's no conspiracy, they're right out in the open

That evidence alone you'd think would cast a shadow of doubt on our government's integrity, yet "the people" such as a few of you would rather wave your American flag and tell yourselves our federal government can do no harm, even though it does do harm on a daily basis



Yes, such projects existed. And I firmly believe that programs similar to MK-Ultra exist today. But the case of Staff Sgt. Psycho doesn't fit the MK-Ultra profile. Illmyrin should know this.
Ultimately, MK-Ultra-esque programming just isn't necessary in order to create Staff Sgt. Psycho. All of the ingredients already exist in the situation in question. I don't think many of you grasp how many ALMOST-SSG-Psycho scenarios there have been in the past several years. It's kind of a perfect-storm phenomenon. Or maybe a "there but for the grace of God go I" type of thing. War is hell. It is difficult to explain this adequately. The psychology of war is very similar to the psychology of incarceration. Repeatedly being faced with decisions you never dreamed of making...choices that, no matter what you choose, may have severe and acute consequences...constitutes a level of prolonged stress that creates near perfect environments for events like these. Quite frankly, I'm a bit surprised that situations such as these don't happen a bit more often.
MK-Ultra was what it was. But people like Illy are too busy sifting things through their filters to see what is right in front of their faces. Make no mistake about it: Illmyrin sees what he sees because he WANTS to see it. Not because it makes sense. Not because it fits. Because he WANTS to see it. It allows him to cognitively reinforce the perception that he has spent so much time, energy and effort building.

 

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illmyrin  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-25 11:52:26
Possibly true! I have filters for that stuff also!

 

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MayorShade  2 stars
Title: Not Special Forces
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Registered: 2004-3-1 10:40:52
illmyrin posted:

Possibly true! I have filters for that stuff also!



Haha. Ill, I must clarify with regard to my reference to your filters. I was specifically referring to this particular event. I just don't think you are seeing it clearly. Sometimes you remind me of Dig. Oh god, I hope you aren't him.

 

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illmyrin  3 stars
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Dig was kicking dirt when I was rocking a backhoe!


I see though. So clear I'm able to hit light speed with it and pierce as many angles as I can imagine up. This entire thread might just have been a way for me to put a few more nails in the MK-Ultra deniers hands.

 

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MayorShade  2 stars
Title: Not Special Forces
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Registered: 2004-3-1 10:40:52
illmyrin posted:

Dig was kicking dirt when I was rocking a backhoe!


I see though. So clear I'm able to hit light speed with it and pierce as many angles as I can imagine up. This entire thread might just have been a way for me to put a few more nails in the MK-Ultra deniers hands.



If you want to put nails in deniers hands, stop focusing on an event that doesn't fit, and post this:

http://www.michael-robinett.com/declass/c000.htm

Big dummy

 

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illmyrin  3 stars
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It does fit though. It's easy to stage a crash and condition a person during their recovery. You've even got a built in "brain damage" scapegoat.

 

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BubbleDude  2 stars
Title: Perma-N00b
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Registered: 2003-2-27 21:04:24
Tych2 posted:

I don't even know what an MK-ultra style mission is.



 

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MayorShade  2 stars
Title: Not Special Forces
Posts: 258
Registered: 2004-3-1 10:40:52
illmyrin posted:

It does fit though. It's easy to stage a crash and condition a person during their recovery. You've even got a built in "brain damage" scapegoat.



It's much easier to not stage anything and not condition anyone. You don't get it. Why stage anything or condition anyone when all you have to do is just sit back and let WAR happen? It truly is that simple. Prolong a conflict for 10 years. Subject thousands of soldiers to multiple lengthy intervals of combat stress. It takes care of itself. No distinct program needed. Only a human in the midst of combat. It's bound to happen. No MK-Ultra needed. In fact, that type of methodical and distinct programming is contra-indicated.

 

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illmyrin  3 stars
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I agree with what you say. I understand the war weary soldier on the edge factor. You ask why? I'd say timing control. What good is psycho rampages when you can't time them to fit a purpose?

 

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MayorShade  2 stars
Title: Not Special Forces
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Registered: 2004-3-1 10:40:52
illmyrin posted:

I agree with what you say. I understand the war weary soldier on the edge factor. You ask why? I'd say timing control. What good is psycho rampages when you can't time them to fit a purpose?



Because you don't need to time them to fit a purpose. "Usable" events take place over there with regularity. Could be a psycho rampage, could be a holy-book in a burn-pit. Could be a drone-fired hellfire at a funeral. Could be this, could be that. There is a long list of usable incidents that take place within a usable time margin. It's like a grab-bag. See something you like? Grab it and roll with it.

 

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