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Eradiani  3 stars
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is there anything in your life that isn't a conspiracy?

 

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B_Shinkicker  3 stars
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Sgian_Dubh posted:

illmyrin posted:

Ah, no problem. Ever see the movie Manchurian Candidate? That movie was based on the 50s MK-Ultra program. We spent a bunch of money to try and figure out if there was a way to create mindless assassins. The Soviets were rumored to have that tech and the US scrambled to "catch up." Now days we call it harsh interrogation, post hypnotic suggestion and manchurian candidate sleepers. A few years back it was reported that our interrogations involved MK-Ultra style drugs and conditioning methods.


Some of the cool things we learned while doing the MK-Ultra experiments is that by strapping a football helmet on a person in a straight jacket, while blasting "our mother hates you" into the ears of a man tripping on LSD for 3 months makes 8 out of 10 subjects catatonic.





how fucking tough are the other 2?



 

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DemonicXH  3 stars
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Eradiani posted:

is there anything in your life that isn't a conspiracy?
MayorShade  2 stars
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DemonicXH posted:

Eradiani posted:

is there anything in your life that isn't a conspiracy?




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Ill is our minister of crazy.

 

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illmyrin  3 stars
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Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

The way i see it, is what would someone have to gain from sending a soldier on a civilian kill spree?


Illmyrin posted:

I personally think that there is a full spectrum agenda to position the US as a danger to the rest of the world eventually setting the stage for justifying a global intervention against us. -2011



The only conclusion i can legitimately draw is that the response to this is movement towards withdrawal and peace.


Illmyrin posted:

The only thing keeping us there is the worry over the destabilizing effects of our withdrawal. This incident will have consequences and if you remember a few weeks ago we had US soldiers burning Korans in the presents of Afghans who went NUTS and attacked the base for a week. All of these types of events are part of a plan. Its nothing for a Blackwater type to put on desert cammo and light up civilians one morning so that later in the afternoon our troops become threatened. Interesting example. Remember that Blackwater crew that was burned and strung up from a Bridge in Iraq? Earlier that day, in that area, another blackwater crew killed 17 civilians from that area in a turkey shoot. The crew that got burned up was sent in to die by Prince. After that event the US increased spending on Blackwater's services by 200%... This is grand scale Agent provocation.



Let's say the US bars violent war video games from soldiers on deployment. What cause does that serve?


Illmyrin posted:

Ah, I didn't expand on the video game reference. Basically to cut them off from teamspeak/voice services. If this is used as a communications lock down as opposed to a reaction towards those sorts of games potential effect on stressed soldiers i smell a rat.



The people behind this would not be behind 9-11. They wouldn't be part of the military industrial complex. Not really. If their goal is to shrink the US military presence, then they are working counter to that goal. Likely, they would not be operating an MK-ULTRA program if that were the case.


Illmyrin posted:

The goal of the Military industrial complex is not to shrink the US military's presence anywhere. Their current priority is draining our wealth and military resources. I believe our nation is doomed to be removed from the global stage. Right now, all previous US agencies of Power have turned in against us. We're to be looted, drained and starved out. So yea, these same people would very much want to provoke attacks against US soldiers.



If they had the ability to create sleeper agents, why not use an Iranian National Guard to slaughter Afghani civilians. You'd get the same result of people being fed up with us occupying the country and you'd get a natural national outrage of Americans upset with Iran.


Illmyrin posted:

We've got sleepers in that sort of situation that don't need to be brainwashed. We've spent the last 5 years paying former Al-CIAduh fighters to dress like Iranians and deliver British made Liquid Copper IEDs to Iraqi insurgents. You'd have a hard time finding a US soldier who'd take cash to murder civilians since the first thing he'd think about is being responsible for retaliations against his brothers in arms. Hence the mind control.



Seems like a much larger win/win with no obvious blowback to me.


Illmyrin posted:

Blowback is a tactic being used against the US by US agencies. Preparing us for a future collapse.




Hey thanks for taking so much time responding

 

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SoBaKi  2 stars
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illmyrin posted:





 

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Rikarus  2 stars
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ummmmmmmmmmm?

 

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illmyrin  3 stars
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Rikarus posted:

ummmmmmmmmmm?



Step away from the thread Rik!


(throws another thread as a distraction)

 

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the_great_ontex  3 stars
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Like it or not projects like MK-Ultra and operation Northwoods do in fact exist

That's no conspiracy, they're right out in the open

That evidence alone you'd think would cast a shadow of doubt on our government's integrity, yet "the people" such as a few of you would rather wave your American flag and tell yourselves our federal government can do no harm, even though it does do harm on a daily basis

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