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Crackdoc  Posts: 236
Registered: 2005-10-7 12:55:29
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Justice Dept opposes Texas voter ID law |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
"The 2008 case Crawford v. Marion County Election Board ruled that an Indiana law that required voters to obtain and present picture identification such as a driver's license was constitutional because the Supreme Court found no substantial burden imposed on voters and preventing voter fraud was a valid governmental objective.[16] The lawsuit continued in the 2010 case League of Women Voters, et al. v. Todd Rokita where the Indiana Supreme Court ruled that requiring photo identification for voting was within the legislature's power."
I see nothing wrong with this - what is lacking is an ID card that isn't a drivers' license that has a photo - a Citizenship card if you will.
Voting by eligible CITIZENS is a right BUT the determination of who is a citizen is vital.
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Kjarhall  Title: The Pungent One
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Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
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Crackdoc posted:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
"The 2008 case Crawford v. Marion County Election Board ruled that an Indiana law that required voters to obtain and present picture identification such as a driver's license was constitutional because the Supreme Court found no substantial burden imposed on voters and preventing voter fraud was a valid governmental objective.[16] The lawsuit continued in the 2010 case League of Women Voters, et al. v. Todd Rokita where the Indiana Supreme Court ruled that requiring photo identification for voting was within the legislature's power."
I see nothing wrong with this - what is lacking is an ID card that isn't a drivers' license that has a photo - a Citizenship card if you will.
Voting by eligible CITIZENS is a right BUT the determination of who is a citizen is vital.
See Pg. 3 - http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/06301001bd.pdf
Indiana offers FREE photo ID. That's partly why the case was struck down. There is no relevant reason why anyone would be restricted from obtaining photo ID, AND there are provisions for those who do not have it or are prevented from producing it at the ballot.
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Groucho48 Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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From the links...
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While the majority conceded that Republican Party's partisan interest in reducing low-income voter turnout likely motivated the law's passage, it found that the law's valid neutral justifications "should not be disregarded simply because partisan interests may have provided one motivation for the votes of individual legislators."
Gotta love right wing Supreme Courts...Yes, the main purpose of this law is to make it harder for some folks to vote, but, who cares, because, theoretically, this might help prevent a type of voter fraud that has never occurred in Indiana.
and, from back in the day..."Mississippi Senator Theodore Bilbo declared "If the poll tax bill passes, the next step will be an effort to remove the registration qualification, the educational qualification of Negroes. If that is done we will have no way of preventing the Negroes from voting."[7"
The type of fraud a voter ID would prevent does not exist. The Supreme Court made it clear that they know Republicans are doing this for purely partisan reasons, but, the Court just doesn't care.
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cabbyman  Posts: 441
Registered: 2003-1-6 07:48:53
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If we're going to require an ID and background check to get a gun then we should require one for voting as well.
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Groucho48 Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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“As noted above, an applicant for an election identification certificate will have to travel to a driver’s license office. This raises three discrete issues. First, according to the most recent American Community Survey three-year estimates, 7.3 percent of Hispanic or Latino households do not have an available vehicle, as compared with only 3.8 percent of non-Hispanic white households that lack an available vehicle. Statistically significant correlations exist between the Hispanic voting-age population percentage of a county, and the percentage of occupied housing units without a vehicle.
Second, in 81 of the state’s 254 counties, there are no operational driver’s license offices. The disparity in the rates between Hispanics and non-Hispanics with regard to the possession of either a driver’s license or personal identification card issued by DPS is particularly stark in counties without driver’s license offices. According to the September 2011 data, 10.0 percent of Hispanics in counties without driver’s license offices do not have either form of identification, compared to 5.5 percent of non-Hispanics. According to the January 2012 data, that comparison is 14.6 percent of Hispanics in counties without driver’s license offices, as compared to 8.8 percent of non-Hispanics. During the legislative hearings, one senator stated that some voters in his district could have to travel up to 176 miles roundtrip in order to reach a driver’s license office.
http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/voter-id/feds-reject-texas-voter-id-law/
Also, I would like to see a show of hands of all the folks who support this law who, up until it became expedient for their talking points to claim the DMV is a model of efficiency and convenience, regularly used it as an example of how terrible the government is at doing anything.
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uglydwarf Posts: 129
Registered: 2005-2-4 08:37:07
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Justice Dept opposes Texas voter ID law |
they were probably useing a list generated from some of ACORN's voter registration cards.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-obtains-new-fbi-documents-regarding-acorn-voter-fraud-investigation/
http://rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html
and how would it be "super easy to spot"? all they would have to do is stop the bus a block or two away, out of sight of the polling places.
Yukishiro1 posted:
Fist_de_Yuma posted:
When they have buses filled with people driving from voter poll to voter poll
This doesn't happen. And really can't happen. To do that (i.e. bus people around to vote more than once) that you would need a list of registered people who arn't going to vote to work off of.
Plus if it ever happened it'd be super easy to spot and the people would get arrested pretty much instantly.
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ineenia Posts: 373
Registered: 2005-11-1 04:48:33
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Aerlinthian posted:
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Article posted:WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department's civil rights division on Monday objected to a new photo ID requirement for voters in Texas because many Hispanic voters lack state-issued identification.
I stopped reading the story after that because I was laughing...
Not that it is really funny at just how backwards and awful the out of control national government has become.
What exactly do you find funny or wrong with that? Keeping in mind there are a whole lot of Hispanic natural born citizens in Texas.
Also can anyone who supports voter IDs explain to me which form of ID is valid to get your voter ID,and what form of ID do you need to get that ID and what form of ID do I need to get that one?
...continue down that line of questioning until you realize your not that bright.
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PackHunter Posts: 47
Registered: 2001-12-20 06:39:10
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Justice Dept opposes Texas voter ID law |
Crackdoc posted:
I see nothing wrong with this - what is lacking is an ID card that isn't a drivers' license that has a photo - a Citizenship card if you will.
Voting by eligible CITIZENS is a right BUT the determination of who is a citizen is vital.
Just like using robocalls to direct voters from the other parties to polling stations that don't exist, right?
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Crackdoc Posts: 236
Registered: 2005-10-7 12:55:29
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PackHunter posted:
Crackdoc posted:
I see nothing wrong with this - what is lacking is an ID card that isn't a drivers' license that has a photo - a Citizenship card if you will.
Voting by eligible CITIZENS is a right BUT the determination of who is a citizen is vital.
Just like using robocalls to direct voters from the other parties to polling stations that don't exist, right?
What does one have to do with the other? You are such a raving anti-Con you apparently have no ability to focus on a single subject.
Voter identification when voting in Ontario Provincial elections is governed as per ->
http://wemakevotingeasy.ca/media/en/E0599_Identification_Requirements_for_Voting_in_Ontario_Provincial_Elections_12-2010.html
Pretty obvious that they want(ed) some way to double-check that voters are eligible only vote once.
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Cawlin  Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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ineenia posted:
...continue down that line of questioning until you realize your not that bright.
LOL Irony...
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