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theredkay1  3 stars
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Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
Crackdoc posted:

theredkay1 posted:

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You seem willing to restrict the voting ability of many Americans in order to keep illegals from voting.


Are you willing to give up your vote as the cost of keeping an illegal from voting?;............



How so restrict ? Providing each person of voting age a method of legal proof that they are entitled to vote isn't that difficult (as I and Afio already linked, those 2 and many jurisdictions provide avenues wherein voters can easilly 'prove' elegibility).


This wah wah wah about restriction is a Red Herring - anyone so stupid that they cannot meet some simple requirements to obtain proof shouldn't be allowed to walk and chew gum, never mind vote.






So this wouldnt restrict anyones ability to vote...except for the group of people you deem to stupid to deserve a vote? You are presenting two statements which are at odds with each other.


There should still be a very high burden of proof to show actual benefits before you start restricting the voting ability of stupid people.
Cawlin  4 stars
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Stick with the argument K instead of trying to wriggle around it and restate it as a different argument with each post.

 

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Tych2  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
theredkay1 posted:

Tych2 posted:

So we want as many as possible voting? So when I see posts about crappy voters and people not voting the right way I can point and laugh at them?





You can do anything you want to...but....

Disagreeing with your choices on a subject and taking action to eliminate your ability to choose are two very different things.

I am just trying to figure out the party line here is all.

 

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theredkay1  3 stars
Posts: 611
Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
Cawlin posted:

Waiting to hear how keeping illegals from voting in America makes it impossible for actual Americans to vote...



I dont think thats the right measurement. Making it more difficult to vote seems to be where the debate is....although the rhetoric might get a little loose.


There is a long history in America of making it very hard, but still possible, for some groups to vote.


Cawlin posted:

Stick with the argument K instead of trying to wriggle around it and restate it as a different argument with each post.



not sure what you mean. Maybe you should read more closely?
Cawlin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
theredkay1 posted:

Cawlin posted:

Waiting to hear how keeping illegals from voting in America makes it impossible for actual Americans to vote...



I dont think thats the right measurement. Making it more difficult to vote seems to be where the debate is....although the rhetoric might get a little loose.



Really? Then why did you say this:


theredkay1 posted:

You seem willing to restrict the voting ability of many Americans in order to keep illegals from voting.

Are you willing to give up your vote as the cost of keeping an illegal from voting?



theredkay1 posted:

Cawlin posted:

Stick with the argument K instead of trying to wriggle around it and restate it as a different argument with each post.



not sure what you mean. Maybe you should read more closely?



Maybe you should actually make an argument that you are willing to actually try to defend rather than tossing up random nonsensical crap ad nauseum and abandoning every pointless point as soon as you're called on it.

 

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