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Brother_Tempus  3 stars
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cabbyman posted:

If Mexico was lobbing missiles into the US



If the US was killing Mexican leaders and civilians fist like Israel was doing to Palestine, would we not expect Mexico to be lobbing rockets at the very least?

Cabby seems to only want to focus on the response not the triggering event leading to the response

 

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Kjarhall  3 stars
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Manegarm posted:

A country who is unlawfully occupying another is never in the right.. even less so when it's an oppressive apartheid quasi theocratic shit stain like Israel.



Except it's not unlawful. If you're going to blame anyone, blame the Brits, and even the Nazis and Russians for their hand in creating Israel for persecuted Jews.

The intentions were good, and deserved. The powers that be at the time just didn't really care it would be marginalizing the Arabs in order to do it.

 

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Brother_Tempus  3 stars
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uglydwarf posted:

palestinians launch 100's of rockets a year at israel every year



In respinse to Israel's constant violations of Palestinean territory.

It seems ugly wants to focus on the response to an incident instead of the instigator

 

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Testerion  3 stars
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Its funny how people consider Israel shining beacon of freedom and democracy in middle-east when Israelis discriminate against nonjews every chance they get regardless are they citizens or not.

 

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cabbyman  2 stars
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Brother_Tempus posted:

cabbyman posted:

If Mexico was lobbing missiles into the US



If the US was killing Mexican leaders and civilians fist like Israel was doing to Palestine, would we not expect Mexico to be lobbing rockets at the very least?

Cabby seems to only want to focus on the response not the triggering event leading to the response



You have to look past last week or last month Brother. This has been going on for decades.

And Israel didn't start it.

 

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Ptilk  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
Actually...they did.
cabbyman  2 stars
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OK, I will give you that they actually fired the first actual shot but from his own Wiki link...

Arab preparations
On the eve of the war, Egypt massed approximately 100,000 of its 160,000 troops in the Sinai, including all of its seven divisions (four infantry, two armored and one mechanized), four independent infantry brigades and four independent armored brigades. No fewer than a third of them were veterans of Egypt's intervention into the Yemen Civil War and another third were reservists. These forces had 950 tanks, 1,100 APCs and more than 1,000 artillery pieces.[30] At the same time some Egyptian troops (15,000–20,000) were still fighting in Yemen.[31][32][33] Nasser's ambivalence about his goals and objectives was reflected in his orders to the military. The general staff changed the operational plan four times in May 1967, each change requiring the redeployment of troops, with the inevitable toll on both men and vehicles. Towards the end of May, Nasser finally forbade the general staff from proceeding with the Qahir ("Victory" plan, which called for a light infantry screen in the forward fortifications with the bulk of the forces held back to conduct a massive counterattack against the main Israeli advance when identified, and ordered a forward defense of the Sinai.[34] In the meantime, he continued to take actions intended to increase the level of mobilization of Egypt, Syria and Jordan, in order to bring pressure on Israel.
Syria's army had a total strength of 75,000 and amassed them along the Syrian border.[35] Jordan's army had 55,000 troops[36] and 300 tanks along the Jordanian border, 250 of which were U.S. M48 Patton, sizable amounts of M113 APCs, a new battalion of mechanized infantry, and a paratrooper battalion trained in the new U.S.-built school. They also had 12 battalions of artillery and six batteries of 81 mm and 120 mm mortars.[37]
Documents captured by the Israelis from various Jordanian command posts record orders from the end of May for the Hashemite Brigade to capture Ramot Burj Bir Mai'in in a night raid, codenamed "Operation Khaled". The aim was to establish a bridgehead together with positions in Latrun for an armored capture of Lod and Ramle. The "go" codeword was Sa'ek and end was Nasser. The Jordanians planned for the capture of Motza and Sha'alvim in the strategic Jerusalem Corridor. Motza was tasked to Infantry Brigade 27 camped near Ma'ale Adummim: "The reserve brigade will commence a nighttime infiltration onto Motza, will destroy it to the foundation, and won't leave a remnant or refugee from among its 800 residents".[37]
100 Iraqi tanks and an infantry division were readied near the Jordanian border. Two squadrons of fighter-aircraft, Hawker Hunters and MiG 21, were rebased adjacent to the Jordanian border.[37]
On June 2, Jordan called up all reserve officers, and the West Bank commander met with community leaders in Ramallah to request assistance and cooperation for his troops during the war, assuring them that "in three days we'll be in Tel-Aviv".[37]
The Arab air forces were aided by volunteer pilots from the Pakistan Air Force acting in independent capacity, and by some aircraft from Libya, Algeria, Morocco, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia to make up for the massive losses suffered on the first day of the war.[38]

 

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Brother_Tempus  3 stars
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Ptilk posted:

Actually...they did.



This, the government of Israel has been nothing but a habitual provocateur in this conflict. They have no interest in peace and are happy to continue the same slow path of genocide that was practiced in them over 60 years ago

 

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cabbyman  2 stars
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Registered: 2003-1-6 07:48:53
So the armies from five other countries are mobilizing on your border and screaming for your death and you're supposed to just wait them out.

You guys are plum loco!

Face it. Israel pwnd the Arabs in the face and the Arabs have been about it for the last five decades!

You Jew haters need to give it a rest.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Well, it kind of did start the whole thing. A bunch of zionists moved in and bought up land from absentee landowners and tried to turn it into their own country. Of course absentee landowners couldn't sell them the rights to create their own country.


It would be sorta like 20 million mexicans buying up half of california's private land from private landowners and then saying they were going to create their own country. Then throw in that most of the ownerse of that land lived in New York and never visited California and the tenants got thrown off the land by the new owners.


When you look at the history of Jewish-Arab relations in Palestine things were pretty peaceful until around 1910 or so, when the real influx of zionists began.


The history of Israel is not a simple thing you can describe in black and white and good and evil.


Your problem is you are trying to start the story in 1945 instead of when it needs to start in about 1880.

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