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Grymlo  2 stars
Posts: 415
Registered: 2002-4-30 05:51:06
AzureTyger posted:

Republicans posted:

It's a NIGHTMARE!!!!!!!!




Yes it still isnt pretty and you are an idiot if you think its all rosy out there.

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
Title: Pastor of Muppets
Posts: 1,809
Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
Grymlo posted:

Ashmaele posted:

Brother_Tempus posted:

Record unemployment ( the numbers of people that government doesn;t count)



Failed in the very first sentence.

Are you seriously alleging that unemployment is higher now than it was during the 1930s? Really?



1929 - 3.2 percent
1930 - 8.7 percent
1931 - 15.9 percent
1932 - 23.6 percent
1933 - 24.9 percent (the highest during the Great Depression)
1934 - 21.7 percent
1935 - 20.1 percent
1936 - 16.9 percent
1937 - 14.3 percent
1938 - 19.0 percent

I'll go with the highest since the 30's



And you'd be wrong.

 

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Grymlo  2 stars
Posts: 415
Registered: 2002-4-30 05:51:06
Ashmaele posted:

Grymlo posted:

Ashmaele posted:

Brother_Tempus posted:

Record unemployment ( the numbers of people that government doesn;t count)



Failed in the very first sentence.

Are you seriously alleging that unemployment is higher now than it was during the 1930s? Really?



1929 - 3.2 percent
1930 - 8.7 percent
1931 - 15.9 percent
1932 - 23.6 percent
1933 - 24.9 percent (the highest during the Great Depression)
1934 - 21.7 percent
1935 - 20.1 percent
1936 - 16.9 percent
1937 - 14.3 percent
1938 - 19.0 percent

I'll go with the highest since the 30's



And you'd be wrong.





Im kinda betting the numbers from the 30s vs your graph vs today were figured differently

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Uh that doesn't matter. Unless the numbers on the graph itself are figured differently from 1980 to now no matter what the numbers were in the 1930s the numbers in 1983 would still be worse than in 2009.
Bjorvald  2 stars
Posts: 334
Registered: 2002-4-5 20:51:00
We don't measure unemployment the same now as we did in the 30's or the 80's. You hide a lot of unemployment now. You can't compare the rates directly.

 

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Vydor  1 star
Posts: 248
Registered: 2001-12-24 21:14:09
I do hope you're right with your title AT, we've been in a funk for far too long now, it's about time we break out. I don't care who gets credit, I just don't wanna suffer anymore and want my kids, who are just getting into the work force, to have some good opportunities.

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
Title: Pastor of Muppets
Posts: 1,809
Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
Bjorvald posted:

We don't measure unemployment the same now as we did in the 30's or the 80's. You hide a lot of unemployment now. You can't compare the rates directly.

How is it different?

 

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Bjorvald  2 stars
Posts: 334
Registered: 2002-4-5 20:51:00
Ashmaele posted:

Bjorvald posted:

We don't measure unemployment the same now as we did in the 30's or the 80's. You hide a lot of unemployment now. You can't compare the rates directly.

How is it different?



No time to look it up, but basically until the 80's we essentially used U6 as the unemployment rate. Now we use U3. Presto, millions of unemployed are now NOT unemployed. Magic.

 

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Bonzoboy1  3 stars
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Registered: 2008-8-1 18:04:29
The biggest part of the increase in consumer spending is forced through higher food and gas prices rather than from increased consumer confidence or disposable income.

 

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AzureTyger  2 stars
Title: Awesome
Posts: 462
Registered: 2002-4-1 15:49:04
Bonzoboy1 posted:

The biggest part of the increase in consumer spending is forced through higher food and gas prices rather than from increased consumer confidence or disposable income.



Higher food prices = Thank you George Bush for subsidizing corn biofuel and driving up feed and grain product prices across the country!
Higher gas prices = Thank you Barack Obama for getting the economy back on track!

 

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